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Old 07-12-2006, 05:48 PM #106
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For ****s sake, read the links you posted.

Something they all have in common is they talk about the "use" of children. If you can't figure out what makes that different then being a terrorist, you can sit down and let the other people talk.
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Are you saying that Palestinian children have no connections to terrorists. A simple google search should pull up women and children terrorists.
EDIT: bang less than 5 minutes of searching...

http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/terrorism-...ember#children

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/MFAArchive...errorism .htm

Those poor, poor, misunderstood women and children.
Ok...

First of all, your source is the Israeli ministry of foreign affairs...

Second off, it says palestinian children are being brainwashed. Being brainwashed does not equal being a terrorist. Sorry
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Old 07-12-2006, 06:35 PM #108
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Second off, it says palestinian children are being brainwashed. Being brainwashed does not equal being a terrorist. Sorry
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how is this not on cnn
I haven't seen it on any news networks... wtf.

Anyways, the situation really sucks. I can see it from both views though, in some ways Israel could be seen as "dicks" for invading this country because officially the entire country is not at war with them. However, look at it from the Israeli standpoint. They are getting bombed and having their people kidnapped almost daily. What are they supposed to do, sit back and take it?

The whole thing sucks no matter how you look at it, and there is no obvious solution.
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I haven't seen it on any news networks... wtf.

Anyways, the situation really sucks. I can see it from both views though, in some ways Israel could be seen as "dicks" for invading this country because officially the entire country is not at war with them. However, look at it from the Israeli standpoint. They are getting bombed and having their people kidnapped almost daily. What are they supposed to do, sit back and take it?

The whole thing sucks no matter how you look at it, and there is no obvious solution.
Well for what it's worth, I don't think they're dicks for going into Lebanon to fight Hezbollah. I think it's a stupid move and will go badly for them, like the last time they were in Lebanon, but I don't think it is morally wrong per se. Hezbollah wants to fight them, and they launch rockets at them regularly. You can't say they're wrong for wanting to go after them. ****, they wouldn't be wrong for wanting to go after the Palestinian rocket launchers if they could manage to do it without blowing up powerplants and blowing up parliament buildings... repeatedly.

However, threatening to bomb the Lebanese infrastructure so badly they "set the country back 20 years" (actual direct quote) which amounts to collective punishment against civillians, once again reinforces my belief that the Israelis are terrorist *******s who should have lost the 6 day war and been told to go the **** back to wherever you came from before trying to set up your country among the Arabs.
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True, I have my opinion on the matter, but I would just like some facts to help back up
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Just state your opinion then link to some obscure foreign newspaper and claim it backs up your points.

Most of the time no one checks them
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This picture, made from an Israeli military aircraft, released by the Israeli Defense Force shows an Israeli airstrike in southern Lebanon Wednesday July 12, 2006. Israel wants to "push back" Hezbollah guerrillas controlling southern Lebanon as part of its current offensive there following the capture of two Israeli soldiers, the head of Israel's northern command said Wednesday. (AP Photo/IDF)


A Lebanese soldier stands on alert behind an anti-aircraft gun after Israeli warplanes destroyed the Qassmieh bridge, on the main north-south highway, southern Lebanon, Wednesday, July 12, 2006. Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers in a cross-border raid Wednesday, triggering an Israeli assault with warplanes, tanks and gunboats against southern Lebanon as Israeli troops crossed the frontier to hunt for the captives. (AP Photo/Mohammed Zaatari)


Lebanese citizens and soldiers inspect the damage at the Qassmieh bridge after it was destroyed when Israeli warplanes targeted it, on the main north-south highway, southern Lebanon, Wednesday, July 12, 2006. Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers in a cross-border raid Wednesday, triggering an Israeli assault with warplanes, tanks and gunboats against southern Lebanon as Israeli troops crossed the frontier to hunt for the captives. (AP Photo/ Mohammed Zaatari)



A wounded Israeli is brought into hospital after being wounded in an attack by Hezbollah guerillas in northern Israel on the border with Lebanon, in Haifa, northern Israel,Wednesday, July 12, 2006. Israel wants to "push back" Hezbollah guerrillas controlling southern Lebanon as part of its current offensive there following the capture of two Israeli soldiers, the head of Israel's northern command said Wednesday. (AP Photo/Elad Gershgorn)


An Israeli mobile artillery piece fires towards southern Lebanon near the Israeli army post of Zaura Wednesday July 12, 2006. The Israeli Defense Ministry confirmed the capture of two Israeli soldiers by Lebanese guerrillas on Wednesday, and said it held the Lebanese government 'directly responsible' for their fate and safe return. 'The Lebanese government is responsible for the fate of the Israeli soldiers, and must take immediate action to locate them without harming them and return them to Israel,' the ministry said in a statement. (AP Photo/Avihu Shapira)




An Israeli warplane is prepared for a mission over Lebanon from Ramat David air force base in northern Israel, Wednesday, July 12, 2006. Hezbollah fighters launched a raid into Israel and captured two Israeli soldiers Wednesday, triggering an Israeli assault with warplanes, gunboats and ground troops in southern Lebanon to hunt for the captives. Seven Israeli soldiers, two Lebanese civilians and a guerrilla were killed in the violence. (AP Photo/Ariel Schalit)


Israeli pilots, seen in the cockpit of an Israeli warplane as they prepare to take off for a mission in Lebanon from Ramat David air force base in northern Israel, Wednesday, July 12, 2006. Hezbollah fighters launched a raid into Israel and captured two Israeli soldiers Wednesday, triggering an Israeli assault with warplanes, gunboats and ground troops in southern Lebanon to hunt for the captives. Seven Israeli soldiers, two Lebanese civilians and a guerrilla were killed in the violence. (AP Photo/Ariel Schalit)


An Israeli warplane takes off for a mission in Lebanon from Ramat David air force base in northern Israel, Wednesday, July 12, 2006. Hezbollah fighters launched a raid into Israel and captured two Israeli soldiers Wednesday, triggering an Israeli assault with warplanes, gunboats and ground troops in southern Lebanon to hunt for the captives. Seven Israeli soldiers, two Lebanese civilians and a guerrilla were killed in the violence. (AP Photo/Ariel Schalit)


An Israeli warplane takes off for a mission in Lebanon from Ramat David air force base in northern Israel, Wednesday, July 12, 2006. Hezbollah fighters launched a raid into Israel and captured two Israeli soldiers Wednesday, triggering an Israeli assault with warplanes, gunboats and ground troops in southern Lebanon to hunt for the captives. Seven Israeli soldiers, two Lebanese civilians and a guerrilla were killed in the violence. (AP Photo/Ariel Schalit)


A Lebanese man lights firecrackers during celebrations, in the suburbs of Beirut, Lebanon, Wednesday, July 12, 2006, after the Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers near the border with Israel. Hezbollah fighters launched a raid into Israel and captured two Israeli soldiers Wednesday, triggering an Israeli assault with warplanes, gunboats and ground troops in southern Lebanon to hunt for the captives. Seven Israeli soldiers and two Lebanese were killed in the violence. (AP Photo/Mahmoud Tawil)


Smoke rises from an Israeli air raid as Lebanese people speed on the highway in the Zahrani region, on the Mediterranean coast, southern Lebanon, Wednesday, July 12, 2006. Hezbollah fighters launched a raid into Israel and captured two Israeli soldiers Wednesday, triggering an Israeli assault with warplanes, gunboats and ground troops in southern Lebanon to hunt for the captives. Seven Israeli soldiers, two Lebanese civilians and a guerrilla were killed in the violence. (AP Photo/ Mohammed Zaatari)


Smoke rises from an Israeli air raid that targeted a bridge, in the Zahrani region, on the Mediterranean coast, southern Lebanon, Wednesday, July 12, 2006. Hezbollah fighters launched a raid into Israel and captured two Israeli soldiers Wednesday, triggering an Israeli assault with warplanes, gunboats and ground troops in southern Lebanon to hunt for the captives. Seven Israeli soldiers, two Lebanese civilians and a guerrilla were killed in the violence. (AP Photo/ Mohammed Zaatari)


An Israeli warplane returns from a mission over Lebanon at the Ramat David air force base in northern Israel, Wednesday, July 12, 2006. Hezbollah fighters launched a raid into Israel and captured two Israeli soldiers Wednesday, triggering an Israeli assault with warplanes, gunboats and ground troops in southern Lebanon to hunt for the captives. Seven Israeli soldiers, two Lebanese civilians and a guerrilla were killed in the violence. (AP Photo/Ariel Schalit)


An Israeli tank moves on a road in Zarit, northern Israel on the frontier with Lebanon, Wednesday, July 12, 2006. The Israeli Defense Ministry confirmed the capture of two Israeli soldiers by Lebanese guerrillas on Wednesday, and said it held the Lebanese government "directly responsible" for their fate and safe return. "The Lebanese government is responsible for the fate of the Israeli soldiers, and must take immediate action to locate them without harming them and return them to Israel," the ministry said in a statement. (AP Photo/Yaron Kaminsky)




The sister of killed Israeli soldier Shani Turgeman is comforted after being told her brother was killed in action in southern Lebanon 12 July 2006, in the northern Israeli town of Beit Shean. Seven Israeli soldiers were killed today following a deadly attack by Lebanese Hezbollah militia fighters on an army patrol along Israel's border with Lebanon where two servicemen were snatched. Three Israeli soldiers were killed when "Hezbollah fighters attacked two army jeeps on a routine patrol along Israel's," an army spokesman told AFP. Four soldiers were later killed when a tank was attacked in south Lebanon during searches for two Israeli serviceman abducted during the first attack on the jeep. AFP PHOTO/Hagai AHARON-ISRAEL OUT (Photo credit should read HAGAI AHARON/AFP/Getty Images)
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Israeli armoured vehicles enter during a new operation in the southern Gaza Strip near the Israeli Kibbutz of Kisufim, as the government gave green light to intensify the offensive on Gaza. Israeli tanks and armoured vehicles rolled before dawn into a Palestinian-controlled area east of the central Gaza Strip town of Deir el-Ballah, Palestinian security sources said.


Israeli soldiers prepare for a new operation in the southern Gaza Strip near the Israeli Kibbutz of Kisufim, as the government gave green light to intensify the offensive on Gaza. Israeli tanks and armoured vehicles rolled before dawn 12 July 2006, into a Palestinian-controlled area east of the central Gaza Strip town of Deir el-Ballah, Palestinian security sources said.


Israeli soldiers prepare for a new operation in the southern Gaza Strip near the Israeli Kibbutz of Kisufim, as the government gave green light to intensify the offensive on Gaza. Israeli tanks and armoured vehicles rolled before dawn 12 July 2006, into a Palestinian-controlled area east of the central Gaza Strip town of Deir el-Ballah, Palestinian security sources said.


An Israeli soldier fires during an Israeli military operation in the West Bank city of Nablus, Tuesday 11 July 2006. During clashes between the army and Palestinians, four Palestinian were wounded, including an ambulance driver and a photographer.

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All we need now is India and Pakistan to have an exchange, Russia and China to start some ****, and N.Korea to launch some more missles.


Oh Geez
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All we need now is India and Pakistan to have an exchange, Russia and China to start some ****, and N.Korea to launch some more missles.


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everyone join the coast guard...the draft is coming
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Or you can stay with me in Canada, eh.

(I know we are probably past this, but I don't really care)
I don't think this is going to be WWIII. Sure, there will be wars occuring over the globe, but until it ceases to be individual conflicts in different parts of the globe, and starts to become Side A vs. Side B, it won't make a difference. Hell, war in the Middle East has been going on forever, what makes this instance so different that it's going to spark WWIII?
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(south lebanons ok it's christain).
they are Jews, they hate christians too.
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what a great time to be turning 18.....
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everyone join the coast guard...the draft is coming
The draft is coming.

Iran will get involved in this as to defend Lebanon from the invaders. Same idea in Gulf War 1.

We will defend Israel and attack Iran, local arabic countries will join on the side of Iran, Iran will stop sending oil to America, as well as Saudia Arabia will play economic ally to iran and stop sending oil to America. Crude oil prices will hit $140 a barrel and America will head into a recession and much more debt, to the tune of 12trillion.
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The draft is coming.

Iran will get involved in this as to defend Lebanon from the invaders. Same idea in Gulf War 1.

We will defend Israel and attack Iran, local arabic countries will join on the side of Iran, Iran will stop sending oil to America, as well as Saudia Arabia will play economic ally to iran and stop sending oil to America. Crude oil prices will hit $140 a barrel and America will head into a recession and much more debt, to the tune of 12trillion.

Saudi Arabia will stay Nuetral. The Prince is Best Firends with the Bush family afterall...
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they are Jews, they hate christians too.
You're an idiot.
Edit: Wow.
Please leave this thread, as you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

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You're an idiot.
trust me, I know.

EDIT: I mean the jews DID kill your King and all, doesn't that sound like hatred?
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Wow.
Please leave this thread, as you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
I want you to go to Jerusalem and look for the Christians, or simply look for any that remain. Yeah... to you for being ignorant and assuming too much.
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