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Old 12-14-2002, 10:32 PM #1
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Tips for backplayers

Hey I use to play fron but then i tryed back and really really liked it.

wut are tips from little things to huge must things to know and do and wut stuff to have is a must and that kind of stuff jsut share wut u backplayers do when u play and if there are some quipment stuff that is a must or sumtin like certain amount of tubes that kinda stuff and jsut tips on how to b a good backplayer like wut bunkers are good and how to position ur self all thos goodies thx.

yes i did a search and i got nuttin on backplayers or atleast could not ifnd any.
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Old 12-14-2002, 10:43 PM #2
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HOLY **** EVER HEARD OF THE ****ING SEARCH BUTTON! I mean you could look on the first page and probaly find several similar posts. Dont waste the space!! Search harder retard!!!
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Old 12-14-2002, 10:59 PM #3
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YAY LETS ****ING CUSS BECAUSE WE JUST HEARD COOL KIDS DOING IT **** YEA!

instead of *****ing about it why dont you help him or just NOT POST? he said he did a search... moron

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backplayers shoot ALOT of paint. its their job. you should carry at least 4 140 rounds pods as a backman and have a gun that rips. your job as a backman will be to lay paint, dont let the opposing team advance, and cover your frontmen. if you let your frontmen go, the odds are the other team will just keep coming and overrun you. so its ESSENTIAL to protect those front men. another vital part of being a backman is communication. you have to let your teammates know where the opposing team is.
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Old 12-14-2002, 11:13 PM #4
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yo, its all about j-dubing from the p-dub...and youll need more than 4 pods.
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Old 12-15-2002, 12:26 AM #5
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it depends how long the game is and how many people you are playing against. 4 pods was for 5minute 3 man games which you usually start at
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Old 12-15-2002, 12:31 AM #6
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HOLY **** EVER HEARD OF THE ****ING SEARCH BUTTON! I mean you could look on the first page and probaly find several similar posts. Dont waste the space!! Search harder retard!!!
HOLY **** EVER HEARD OF LEARNING TO READ?! I mean you could of read i did a search dont waste other peoples smart brain to reading your retarded crap...ur the one taking up space actually.... and nothing is on first page ******* ...wait mine is


yea i plan on doing team 3v3 prac to start of so i guess i will keep my 4 pack and then later get bigger one when i get a job cuz i dont like to waste paint lol i only would like to use like a case a day cuz cant get job = hard to get money
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Old 12-15-2002, 01:21 AM #7
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heh

lol then become a frontman. last tourney i used 800 rounds (im a frontman), while my back and mid men used 3000-4000 rounds each. oh, i forgot to mention we all got the same number of total eliminations too
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Old 12-15-2002, 01:35 AM #8
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not a back guys job to eliminate, chances are its not going to happen unless its of the break or the opposing front players really suck. You just keep the other team down and let your guys move to play the angles. You dont need to shoot fast, just enough to keep people down maybe 1-3 a second really. If you rip youll just be reloading alot which give the other team time to move around.
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Old 12-15-2002, 01:49 AM #9
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How much paint?

3man - 4 to 6 pods !
5man - 5 to 9 pods !
10man - 9 or more !

you'll need at least a 68ci. 4500psi. tank or 88ci. 4500psi.

shoot your gun all the time - and NO you don't need to shoot fast !

communicate - cuz you'll probably be one of the only players on your team able to stand up / see the entire field - the whole game !

control the opposition by keeping them IN their bunkers - or prevent them from coming out of a particular side of a bunker. Also you'll make it a LOT harder for the other team to advance up field.

Every team NEEDS a good back player- and just so armyrander6six6 doesn't get too big a head on his shoulders.... you wouldn't have got nearly as many eliminations ( or ANY ) - if you didn't have a back guy covering your a$$
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Old 12-15-2002, 10:25 AM #10
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im kinda a converted back player....

i used to play on a 3 man team with two other little fast kids, and the 225 lbs 14 year old was to big and slow to play front, so i played a lot of back on that team, and then when i first got on my new 5/7 man team i played back. NOw that im at about 175 lbs and another year older, im on a team with the youngest player besides me being 25, and im pretty much the fastest guy on the team and play mid-front now.

in the back, u should be shooting or refilling at all times, and u should be horse after a day of playing back because u have yelled so much. Ur job is to make it possible for ur players to get other people out and make moves. u shouldnt expect to get 10 guys out every game, and dont get frustrated if u shoot a lot of paint with very few eleminations. Its part of playing the position. Make sure that u arent afraid to make moves when u need to tho. when ur way up, u need to start taking ur mid players positions. also on the break, dont shoot at people, shoot at where u think key bunkers are (sweet spotting), and make sure that no one gets there.
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Old 12-15-2002, 10:35 AM #11
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another thing people seem to forget....here in st louis...at one of the local fields they have a 3 man series...and there really wasnt a true back player....basically, hed sweetspot the 50 (centerflag game) and then move to about the 30 in a mid spot...3 man fields are so small the back players role changes quite a bit...
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Old 12-15-2002, 12:21 PM #12
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heres some ideas for playing back...

if you have your recball gun listed under your "tourney" gun ... dont even post ...

if you carry more then 2 pods in 3man your a squid
if you carry more then 5 pods in 5 man ... your wasteing your money
if you carry less then 13 pods in 10man your a fool...

now heres some more ideas to follow ...

if you talk about playing 10man before you have ever even played 5man ... stick to the woods ...

if you play 3man on a spool field you are not a tourney player...

if you play novice for more then a year ... try cheerleading

if your back guys shoot the same amount to people as you in a tourney ... dont play anymore ...

in 3man you dont even need a back player..

and last of all ... if your going to babble about nothing trying to explain something ... then try this



USE YOUR BRAIN BEFORE YOU TYPE...


the moral of this post: Play the game ... stop with the retarded questions
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Old 12-15-2002, 01:04 PM #13
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WHO ARE YOU!? And what makes you think your a paintball jesus? People learn by asking question you sick ****. You are still just another egomaniac whos pretending to be somebody.
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Old 12-15-2002, 01:10 PM #14
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dougie... shutup, im beginning to think you dont even play tournaments... because you are a moron.

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if you carry more then 2 pods in 3man your a squid
if ur a backman and u DONT carry more than 2 pods, your ****ed in 3 man.

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if you talk about playing 10man before you have ever even played 5man ... stick to the woods ...
hes talking about playing 3 man dip****

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in 3man you dont even need a back player..
haha ******* shows how much you know. backplayers are vital, in all games. they protect the front men, lay massive amounts of paint, and have angles/height (in standups) that teammates dont.

i think its you who needs to play the game instead of acting like an internet tough guy. all you did in your last post was prove what a noob you are. if you cant answer this guys question, then dont post. dont make up ****.
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Old 12-15-2002, 01:18 PM #15
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Re: How much paint?

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3man - 4 to 6 pods !
5man - 5 to 9 pods !
10man - 9 or more !

you'll need at least a 68ci. 4500psi. tank or 88ci. 4500psi.

shoot your gun all the time - and NO you don't need to shoot fast !

communicate - cuz you'll probably be one of the only players on your team able to stand up / see the entire field - the whole game !

control the opposition by keeping them IN their bunkers - or prevent them from coming out of a particular side of a bunker. Also you'll make it a LOT harder for the other team to advance up field.

Every team NEEDS a good back player- and just so armyrander6six6 doesn't get too big a head on his shoulders.... you wouldn't have got nearly as many eliminations ( or ANY ) - if you didn't have a back guy covering your a$$
im going to have to say this guy knows what hes talking about... except that you DO need to shoot fast, sometimes. off the break you want to be laying massive amounts of paint in firing lanes you think the opposing team will run through. also you need to be ripping when the other team starts moving, 13+bps is more likely to hit than say 5 bps.

and yes, i understand what a backman does for me and my other teammates. i remember one situation last tournament where i was on the left tape at the 40, my mid man was at the right tape on the 30, and a guy on their tape on the 20 was pinning my mid man, but i didnt have an angle on him. i couldnt move up to get him either cuz he would have an angle on me and so would their backman. we brought this to the attention of our backman, and he rips a string off, 2 secs later we see the guys gun go in the air in conclusion, back men can really open up the game for front and mid players, allowing them to reach spots and get angles they probably wouldnt have gotten to on their own.
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Old 12-15-2002, 01:25 PM #16
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Im gonna haft to completely disagree here

3 man - 9 pods
5 man - 11 pods
10 man - 13+ pods

I suggest at least an 88/45

You do not need to shoot your gun constantly.

Communication, dang if this isnt key then i dont know what is, let them know where everyone is at, let them know if a tape is clear, if they can grab the flag etc.

Yeh keep em in those bunkers.

And the shooting fast, yes, I pride myself on maintaining 16 bps, yes BPS DOES matter or else wed be pumpin

And the back man's job is not to open up the field for you, armyranger6six6 you aperantly think the game is all about you and the back player just helps you out when you cant take the game all by yourself, well ill tell ya something without a back man your team wont hang with mine for ****, I dont care if your dynasty try to play all fronts and im gonna rape you so bad youll need stitches. Dont put back players down.
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Old 12-15-2002, 01:48 PM #17
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I dont think he was putting back players down at all. We know how important our back man is to the team as a whole, and not for any one reason. The story he told was just an example of how important the back man is to the game, had he not been there the game would have stalemated and we probably wouldnt have been able to hang the flag. Probably the most importatnt thing the back man can do though is communicate.

As for strategy...just keep on shooting. In three man I play mid and rarely stop shooting, and the most I have ever used is 3 pods and a hopper during a game. The backman is (or at least should be) shooting more than me so I would say at least 4 pods for 3 man 5 minute games. Probably the most you will need is 6 pods, and add about one pod for each minute above 5 that you will be playing...so a 7 minute game, between 6-8 pods. I think 9 pods is too much for a 5 minute game. Really that is just going to weigh you down and most of the time I doubt you come even close to using all 9 pods. Good luck.
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Old 12-15-2002, 02:37 PM #18
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In a 5 min game you used aprox 750 pb's and you said you never stop shooting, so you shoot about 2.5 BPS, what gun do you use?
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Old 12-15-2002, 03:08 PM #19
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sorry guys, sometimes i forget to be a little more specific in these forums.

The time limit of the game is a big factor in HOW much paint you'll shoot. The time limits for games are not the same everywhere you go.

I can remember 3man games that have been 3 minutes - but i've also played some that were 10min. 5 man - i've played 5 minute games, as well as 7, and 10minute also.

I meant to say Carry MORE paint than you'll need - you never know when your mid / front guy might need a pod from you! It can happen.

Armyranger6six6 - I meant my statement to you to be more light hearted - sometimes using comes off the wrong way.

We all appreciate our back guys - you cannot win without one.
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ummm yeah....

Dougie your a joke....
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Old 12-15-2002, 09:27 PM #21
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You should be able to play most 3-man tournies with a hopper, a hopper and a pod tops. Especially at the local rookie/novice level. Three man is all about agressive play and pushing, not sitting around and throwing paint. It is a waste of money to shoot more than that. Remember there are only three people you need to shoot at and usually you are playing on at least a 5-man sized field. Take advantage of the space you have And you really shouldn't need a set back man, have all three shoot a lane off the break and force the other team into their bunkers then push the hell out of them. keep the communication going constantly and dont be afraid to make a move to brek the game open.



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