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06-25-2006, 12:43 PM
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aim: mikeyusf
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Tampa FL
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Techna / Assassins / Critical bearings vs RC Car Trigger Bearings
Here is the deal. There are two types of bearings used in timmy triggers. One is the super high quality bearings that are used in the critical trigger, the Assassins trigger, and the techna trigger. The bearings are SUPER smooth, but most importantly the inner sleeve is slightly wider than the outer sleeve, this way the trigger never rubs the body.
Obviously if you put RC Car bearings in the trigger, yes the trigger pivots slightly better, but you still encounter frame rub which slows the trigger down.
Does anyone know where you can buy those 3/16 inner, 5/16 outer (Thanks Dan911) precision flanged bearings that Techna/Assassins/Critical uses in their trigger? I want to mod my stock species claw trigger with these bearings and I dont know where to look.
Thanks guys
Last edited by Rendition Tech : 06-25-2006 at 07:02 PM.
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06-25-2006, 01:12 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: fresno ca
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06-25-2006, 01:17 PM
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aim: mikeyusf
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Tampa FL
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good find, I'll see what I can find
obviously Jason @ Techna and Jared @ Assassins order those bearings from somewhere, we gotta figure out where
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06-25-2006, 01:40 PM
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aim: mikeyusf
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Tampa FL
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you see these bearings here-
it's the same bearings in all three triggers
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06-25-2006, 01:43 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: fresno ca
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heres another http://www.dynaroll.com/catalog/pag048.htm
i know you can get them with open sides , metal shields , rubber seals and teflon seals. ive had all types in my r/c cars
Last edited by fiero32v : 06-25-2006 at 01:46 PM.
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06-25-2006, 01:44 PM
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Who drops a gun?
Join Date: May 2002
Location: 415/860
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VXB used to have the right bearing, but they aren't listed anymore. They were $5 a pop.
EDIT: I don't think Critical uses a flanged bearing. I don't have one to look at, but from the picture, it doesn't look flanged.
The Assassin trigger and the Techna have a bit of a recess where the the bearing goes.
Last edited by invader zim : 06-25-2006 at 01:46 PM.
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06-25-2006, 01:45 PM
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aim: mikeyusf
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Tampa FL
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actually its the inner sleeve that sticks out slightly
this way the sleeve acts as a spacer, and spaces the trigger slightly away from the frame so it doesnt rub
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06-25-2006, 01:46 PM
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aim: mikeyusf
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Tampa FL
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Originally Posted by invader zim
VXB used to have the right bearing, but they aren't listed anymore. They were $5 a pop.
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zim!!! the one man who can help me here
any idea who else might sell it? Do you remember what it was called?
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06-25-2006, 02:01 PM
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aim: mikeyusf
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Tampa FL
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.375
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0.1562 5/32
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06-25-2006, 02:03 PM
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250 Pounds of ATTITUDE
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Great Northwest
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I don't think VBX had the correct ones. They were flanged for the trigger, but the inner race was not flanged. The bearing run $10.80 each at Boca, abd they are the ones with the flange on both the outside and the inside.
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06-25-2006, 02:10 PM
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3/8x5/8 is the wrong size. The size you need for the trigger screw to fit through is 3/16, and the size of the bearing inside the trigger is 5/16 od. You can find 3/16 id x 5/16 od flanged or none flanged from the link below. You can also find the size 3/8 by 5/8 there also.
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...ng&FVPROFIL=++
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06-25-2006, 03:04 PM
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aim: mikeyusf
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Tampa FL
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Originally Posted by Dan911
3/8x5/8 is the wrong size. The size you need for the trigger screw to fit through is 3/16, and the size of the bearing inside the trigger is 5/16 od. You can find 3/16 id x 5/16 od flanged or none flanged from the link below. You can also find the size 3/8 by 5/8 there also.
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...ng&FVPROFIL=++
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whoops I knew it was 3 and 5 something, thanks for the heads up.
There problem is that when I type in "flanged" it gives me these-
http://www2.gpmd.com/image/a/ascc4602.jpg
which is the wrong type of flange. I need the inside to be flanged out, not the outside.
Flanged is probably the wrong term. Its more like I need it to be "Spaced". I wish I knew that the term was for a slightly wider inner sleeve than the outer sleeve
Last edited by Rendition Tech : 06-25-2006 at 03:11 PM.
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06-25-2006, 03:26 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: fresno ca
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Originally Posted by Rendition Tech
whoops I knew it was 3 and 5 something, thanks for the heads up.
There problem is that when I type in "flanged" it gives me these-
http://www2.gpmd.com/image/a/ascc4602.jpg
which is the wrong type of flange. I need the inside to be flanged out, not the outside.
Flanged is probably the wrong term. Its more like I need it to be "Spaced". I wish I knew that the term was for a slightly wider inner sleeve than the outer sleeve
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i think that why cp triggers have a spacer . with mine if i tighten it to much it still binds .i think it need one on the screw head side as well
Last edited by fiero32v : 06-25-2006 at 03:28 PM.
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06-25-2006, 03:30 PM
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aim: mikeyusf
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Tampa FL
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thats exactly right. CP uses a spacer instead of the bearings Assassins/Critical/Techna uses. It's CP's way of getting the trigger away from the body.
I think the width of the bearing is a standard 0.1562 (5/32) wide. We need a bearing with the inner sleeve being slightly wider, maybe .18th of an inch wide
If we could figure out what bearing they use, we can buy it, drill out the stock/OEM triggers and have a super fast trigger for dirt cheap
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06-25-2006, 03:36 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: fresno ca
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if you can find some small washers the fit the triger screw that dont rub on the outer race, you could use them as shims . that's how the differential bearing are shimmed in my nitro r/c truck
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06-25-2006, 03:37 PM
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aim: mikeyusf
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Tampa FL
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possibly a disk harrow bearing? is that it?
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06-25-2006, 03:38 PM
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aim: mikeyusf
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Tampa FL
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Originally Posted by fiero32v
if you can find some small washers the fit the triger screw that dont rub on the outer race, you could use them as shims . that's how the differential bearing are shimmed in my nitro r/c truck
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maybe a 3/16 x 1/8 shim? Not a bad idea, but if you have noticed the difference in quality between RC Car store bearings, and those techna/assassins/critical bearings, it's night and day.
We got to find a way to figure out what bearings they are using
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06-25-2006, 03:40 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: fresno ca
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those might work if you can find in the right size
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06-25-2006, 03:45 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: fresno ca
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Originally Posted by Rendition Tech
maybe a 3/16 x 1/8 shim? Not a bad idea, but if you have noticed the difference in quality between RC Car store bearings, and those techna/assassins/critical bearings, it's night and day.
We got to find a way to figure out what bearings they are using
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if you get the ones that the sell individual they're junk metal shield bearings . they dont carry high quality . one of the 2 link i posted earlier ask for tolerances when ordering . both are better than what you would get from a hobby store
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06-25-2006, 06:42 PM
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Mcmaster 3759T33 ABEC-7 flanged double shielded. The sweetest trigger bearing money can buy, sir. I recommend using a light adhesive CAREFULLY everywhere so that the ONLY rubbing is from the ball bearing. A correct setup will swing freely on a pencil, when flicked, for well over a minute.
Sometimes you have to ask...Why does lurker have this bookmarked 
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06-25-2006, 06:50 PM
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aim: mikeyusf
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Tampa FL
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Originally Posted by Lurker27
Mcmaster 3759T33 ABEC-7 flanged double shielded. The sweetest trigger bearing money can buy, sir. I recommend using a light adhesive CAREFULLY everywhere so that the ONLY rubbing is from the ball bearing. A correct setup will swing freely on a pencil, when flicked, for well over a minute.
Sometimes you have to ask...Why does lurker have this bookmarked 
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Lurker is all that is man
I bow to my sensei (bows)
Lurker are those what Techna/Assassins/Critical use? With the slightly wider inner sleeve?
Last edited by Rendition Tech : 06-25-2006 at 06:55 PM.
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