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Old 12-12-2002, 05:30 PM #22
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Well one thing to remember, is that its not just the occasional hardware upgrade that keeps the site running.. since hardware is so expensive, what little we are able to save (after we pay for the monthly colocation fees) typically go towards saving up to pay for the majority of whatever our next upgrade is.

The way i look at it, if you got some cash to spare, and you appreciate this site (and want to see it continue on, and hopefully improve), then by all means, please donate.
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Old 12-12-2002, 06:37 PM #23
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I now have to do a Control - F5 to load/refresh new pages at PBNation. Never had to do this before. Does it on 3 different computers...IE 5.5, IE 6.0. at work, at home....ugh. still have the weirdness with posts not showing up...then reappearing later.
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Old 12-12-2002, 06:40 PM #24
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i dunno, its sort of weird that nobody else is reporting problems like this....
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Old 12-12-2002, 07:18 PM #25
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um actually people are reporting the missing messages thing that i reported before, see other messages. having to do a hard refresh (ctrl-f5) isn't probably noticed by the majority. i'm on here 20 hours a day checking multiple forums. i just got in from work, all my messages i posted (including the one you just responded to previous) didn't show up here at home until i hard refreshed. never had that problem before.
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Old 12-12-2002, 07:50 PM #26
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I was referring to your problems staying logged in.

Tony is going to look into the missing post thing, but it sounds like the problem is with your browser.

The header of every page served here contains a "no cache" header, which instructs your browser to reload the page each time you revisit it, rather than caching it. If you are having to force a refresh to view an updated post, its because for whatever reason your browser isn't paying attention to those nocache headers.

Now its possible that the new server has something to do with this, but im sort of leaning towards it either being your browser, or a bug in our software.

The way the "pool" works, is basically this. When you attempt to go to the website, your computer resolves the ip address of pbnation or www.pbnation.com and gets one of 2 ips, which are randomly distributed.

The time to live on that lookup is set to 1200 seconds, after which time your DNS server will attempt to re-dns the domain, at which time it MAY get the "other" ip. The thing that makes me willing to say its not the round robin dns, is that if your nameserver is caching our IP, you should only be using one of the two webservers.

ya follow?

Try emptying your cache, logging out, and then visiting the site by either www1.pbnation.com or www2.pbnation.com, which should limit you to one or the other of webservers.

As for the missing posts, its not actually "missing", its just not being displayed because of your browser cache.

Whether theres 1 or 500 webservers running the vbulletin software, theres only one database server, so its not a matter of the data being lost. if you post, it made its way in there (or at least into the backlog of sql queries waiting to be executed).
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Old 12-12-2002, 08:00 PM #27
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Its a lot faster good job i got dsl so i thought something was wrong wit it
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Dude, the site was SOOOOO slow b4...now it is like lightning. Keep up the good work and I plan on donating a little after the holidays. Thanx!
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Old 12-13-2002, 08:20 AM #29
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Yes you are and yes you did... friggen.

EDIT: I wanted to type this but my class ended before I got the chance to: Good job Kyle, you used my idea. Back when you installed the new server and it was still a little slow I said use the old one also and you finally did. Good job! And yes I have noticed increased speed the last day or so .

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Old 12-13-2002, 10:00 AM #30
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well i wouldn't say it was YOUR idea but

it was more a matter of me not wanting to do it because of the level of complexity it involved.

we were in fact always using the old server, we are just now using the new server MORE..
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Old 12-13-2002, 05:04 PM #31
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I definitely noticed the speed. But havent' noticed any hiccups, at least none that sank in. I'll take a few db hiccups over mindnumbing timeouts any day.
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Old 12-13-2002, 05:34 PM #32
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When I worked for a dot.com as thier sys admin we were also looking into load balancing solutions. Well the company didnt last long enough to implement it but you can find some pretty nice used cisco hardware on ebay for ~$2000. Its still expensive but way cheapter than 8 grand.
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Old 12-13-2002, 06:10 PM #33
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well, i did say retail didn't i
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Old 12-14-2002, 04:06 PM #34
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are the two servers sync'd (dunno if that is the proper term)?? Sometimes after I post I'll click to go back to the forum and it'll revert to an un updated list of postings from earlier.
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Old 12-14-2002, 06:13 PM #35
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Both servers use the same database, so if you posted on one, and grabbed the pages from the other, it would be the same.
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i think I'm getting what azndrgn was getting too. i was surfing the small talk forum, and the # of replies does not match the number that you see when browsing the threads. neither does the last post. I've refreshed a few times and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

in the place where you browse the forums (main page) the last poster also does not match the last poster in that forum. and as far as now, i can't tell if the light bulbs are working correctly or not.

hope this helps or something.
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Old 12-14-2002, 07:19 PM #37
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we've got a support call into vbulletin to help trouble shoot the problem. i'll keep you posted.
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well, somethign is defintely up... i posted here about 2 hours ago, i saw that my post was taken, and now it's gone.. maybe someone deleted it.. but that's doubtful because I didn't put in anything bad..

so far, problems I've seen. the # of replies while in a forum do not match the number of replies in a thread. the last poster in a thread does not match the "last poster" dialogue when browsing through the thread list. threads in a forum are not showing up. there is a thread in "paintball talk" called "cmas paintball"(or something like that). I can access it by clicking the "last poster" in the forum list, but when I go into "paintball talk" it shows the last thread I've posted in as the top thread... almost as if it's not updating until I post.

I've tried to delete my cookies both manually and through logging out. Deleting it manually did nothing, in fact, I am still logged in. Logging out also did nothing, I never got logged out. I've also pressed refresh numerous times.

Hope this is goodenough feedback to help you. Good luck.
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gah! my earlier post wasn't deleted! this thread just never updated to me until my post.. wierd.
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Old 12-15-2002, 03:59 AM #40
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Ya, I would get emails saying sombody replied to a thread I posted but when I went there it showed nothing, then maybe about 10-15mins later I checked and there it was.
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Old 12-15-2002, 04:32 PM #41
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I have my cookies on but it makes me log in every time i close IE and re-open it.
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Old 12-15-2002, 04:35 PM #42
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As I said, we have a support case open with the makers of vbulletin, I will post when I have news.
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