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Old 04-28-2001, 02:09 PM #1
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I was toying around with the idea of getting a nitro tank for my 98. I was wondering though, how big of a difference this would make. I donít want to spend $200 American just to get rid of CO2 spikes. If Iím laying out that kind of cash, I want see some major improvements. So whatís the story? Can anyone fill me in?

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Old 04-29-2001, 02:29 AM #2
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well with the m98 you wont see the huge performance dif that you would with say a mag but it is definaly there. what HPA gives you is consistancy.. due to Co2 chilling the flash over point changes thus the pressure is inherenly inconsistant. with HPA you have no transition of states from your gas source.. this will help with accuracy and of course velocity. also you are able to tune the internals better.. with the increased consistancy you are able to get better use out of spring kits and upgrades. if you dont want so shell out $200 for a hpa look into a 47cui steel tank.. they can be found for $100 and sometimes less. you will need to fill a little more often thatn say with a 68cui fiber wraped tank but it will get you started for cheaper.. also if you ever decide to move to a higher level of gun HPA is a must. only a select few can run C02.
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Old 05-01-2001, 02:49 AM #3
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If I got a nitro tank I'd probably get a small one anyway. I'd rather have to refill a bunch then haul around a scuba tank on my gun.

Speaking of which, I use a 12 oz CO2 tank now. How much bigger (and heavier) is a 47cui tank going to be? Also, how important is it to get a secondary regulator on the gun? I already have an expansion chamber (kinda pointless with nitro, I realize) but itís one of those Pro Team Intruder deals that the tank screws right into, and I kinda dig that setup. Oh yeah, one last thing. In you opinion would switching to nitro make as big a difference as a new barrel did? Iíve kind of taken an interest in this all of a sudden because Iím itching to put a new toy on my gunÖ

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Old 05-02-2001, 08:50 PM #4
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I know everyone will disagree with me, but I really dont think its a advantage having nitro on the M98... this is what Tippmann said aobut it

"However there is very little
advantage over CO2 because the gun was not designed for a high pressure system"
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Old 05-02-2001, 10:34 PM #5
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If you don't get other upgrades, then the Nitro system won't benefit you too much.

What will it do?

- Eliminate velocity spikes
- Help cut back on CO2 emissions (damn you W.)
- Gun won't shoot CO2 ice with high rates of fire
- Better for colder temperatures
- Don't need an X-chamber to help gas work better
- Some places, cheaper/easier to get (I can get mine filled for free at my local volunteer fire station, yay)

Price wise, you can get a stubby 68ci/3000psi for around 70 bucks. Those can take a ding and go on (unlike fiber wrapped).
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Old 05-03-2001, 03:29 AM #6
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where can u find a 68ci/3000psi tank for 70 bucks?
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Old 05-03-2001, 02:00 PM #7
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I know everyone will disagree with me, but I really dont think its a advantage having nitro on the M98... this is what Tippmann said aobut it

"However there is very little
advantage over CO2 because the gun was not designed for a high pressure system"
Thats funny, cause stock 98s are high pressure guns... Preset HPA tanks are set at 750-850psi which also happens to be the standard tank pressure of unregulated CO2(nasty gas as it is)...

HPA is definately worth the $$, especially if you live up north(as in Canada) which is where I'm assuming you are from Pointed Stick, being as you said "$200 American" as if it weren't the norm...
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Pointed Stick- youll actually find that fiber wrapped tanks are lighter than steel, so if you get a 47 steel it would be about the same weight as a 68-88 fiber wrapped, and hp is defenintly worth the money, youll see much better consistancy, and you wont have a single bit of trouble in cold weather

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Old 05-03-2001, 08:51 PM #9
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Do you have to get Tippmann's HPA kit when you get nitro?
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no you dont have to
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Old 05-04-2001, 01:10 AM #11
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Sounds, more or less, like a consensus to me. N2 wins in a landslide. Dose anyone have any recommendations? Keep in mind price is a factor and Iíll be putting it on my Tippmann so I donít need an obscenely high recharge rate. I donít fire more then 4 ball a second at the most.

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P.S. Actually, SuPrBuGmAn, Iím from Kansas City. I just like the sound of ď$200 AmericanĒ. It lends some class the my posts

It DOES get cold here though, so your point still is well taken.
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Ah, ok-sorry bout that I guess I shouldn't be assuming so much... heh

Anyway, you say budget is an issue, what are you willing to spend?

I'd recommend the Air America Me`lee($230ish or less) or Centerflag 420 Cubes(I've seen em for less than $200). Either will give you a faster recharge(I know you don't think you need it but its still nice to have) and more consistant pressures than the rest of the tanks at equal/lesser prices...
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i think paintballgeek has the cubes for 190
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Old 05-04-2001, 06:04 PM #14
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Itís no big deal, Iíve got nothing against Canada. Many great things come from Canada (beer, hockey, SiN custom paint jobs), just not me.

I was looking at the Air America one at County Paintball. It looked pretty nice. Dose anyone have any idea how much it weighs. Also, Iím not sure if I asked before but whatís up with the secondary regulators people put on there guns? If there is a regulator on the tank isnít that a bit redundant? I think I mentioned before that I already have an expansion chamber and would like to keep it because it acts as my drop forward. Also Iím cheep and I donít want to buy another regulator.

Has anyone tried that nitro kit that Tippmann sells? Is it worth the money?

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A 68ci or 88ci Me`lee will weigh less than a 20oz CO2 tank...

People use secondary regs to increase consistancy, most tanks gain from secondary regs(only a few of the higher-end tanks don't gain consistancy from additional reg`in).
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HEY GUY!!!! well umm if you live in an area the is colder in teh winter a Nitro will greatly improve the preformence then but otherwise i dont really think it is all too important on a 98
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Old 06-18-2001, 08:38 PM #17
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hey stick at www.bbtpaintball.com they have good prices on tanks. they have a 68cu 3000 nitroduck for $169.
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Old 06-19-2001, 11:17 AM #18
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Anyone know if the me'lee tanks fit DZ II's??
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