[asa4575]

http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html

I recently read this article, regarding the collapse of the twin towers and WTC 7, and I encourage skeptics and non-skeptics alike to give it a read if they have any free time.

And the video released today is clearly a joke and reveals nothing new, it is basically at the same angle as the camera view we have all come to see and know.

[Furious Ge0rge (Banned)]

Originally Posted by asa4575

http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html

AWESOME article.

Originally Posted by asa4575

And the video released today is clearly a joke and reveals nothing new, it is basically at the same angle as the camera view we have all come to see and know.

Yea, nothing really special.

[The Dread Pirate]

Originally Posted by asa4575

http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html

I recently read this article, regarding the collapse of the twin towers and WTC 7, and I encourage skeptics and non-skeptics alike to give it a read if they have any free time.

And the video released today is clearly a joke and reveals nothing new, it is basically at the same angle as the camera view we have all come to see and know.

I pointed this out to someone in a PM who brought this up. He blatently selects favorable facts from the NIST report while ignoring others that contradict his theory. For instance, he says the following:

"WTC 7 fell about seven hours after the Towers collapsed, even though no major persistent fires were visible"

I guess he missed the 8 pages of the NIST report that discussed the fires on 4 or 5 floors of the building at the time of collapse. Oops...

Here is the powerpoint slide from the NIST report (since I know making you read the real report is asking too much from many of you).


For a professor, he is quite good at making an opinion then digging for facts to back it up. However, he is not of the majority opinion in his field.

[pbowyer1504]

ini the clip i have seen on AOL news you dont see the object, just a shadown on the ground where something SHOULD have been, and then an explosion. so unless we are equipping commercial liners with cloaking devices, its doctored.
also, the explosion seems to be pretty fluid compared to the part where the object hits. seems like they sped it up and then cut out a few scenes or something...

[Big P]

These sites/videos people put out are much like when I get a flashlight and make the cat chase it. It looks like its there, but wait until you run into the wall.

It was a plane. deal with it.

[greenmile]

I think this thread's going to get hit with something from Pbn Missle Silo 01....and that won't be a plane.

[SteveAdelman (Banned)]

Originally Posted by Hahn

this is unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! a number of things are wrong with this!

1) You expect us to believe that the most high security building in this country, probably one of the most high security buildings IN THE WORLD...has ****ty quality cameras like this. 1FPS is BULL****. This should be in live feed.

2) They release 2 camera angles. What about the 15 other camera angles that show an even better angle of what is happening. Where were those cameras angled?

3) This is clearly NOT a plane. Even if it was the nose or wing of a 737...that shape is not even close.

4) It is a missle. Slow it down, you can see the wings in the back of it if you zoom into it. And a fainted trail in the next frame.

Unbelievable, either way....what else are we to think?

If it's not a plane jackass, then where are all the people that where on the plane? Answer me that

[AR55]

Originally Posted by SteveAdelman

If it's not a plane jackass, then where are all the people that where on the plane? Answer me that

cover up.

[Evilwombat]

Originally Posted by AR55

cover up.

Pssh, everyone knows they're in area 51, with all the flying saucers we ran out of uses for.

[Hahn]

Originally Posted by SteveAdelman

If it's not a plane jackass, then where are all the people that where on the plane? Answer me that

I am not gunna say anymore. Your not looking at the point.

[lri2x97]

Originally Posted by Hahn

I am not gunna say anymore.

Hallelujah.

[25bps (Banned)]

Originally Posted by Hahn

I am not gunna say anymore.

Can we get a mod to enforce this?

[25bps (Banned)]

Here's your plane

[lri2x97]

Originally Posted by 25bps

Can we get a mod to enforce this?

i lol'd right out of my chair.

[hp_lovecraft]

Originally Posted by SteveAdelman

If it's not a plane jackass, then where are all the people that where on the plane? Answer me that

Ever see the movie "Millenium"?

If not, don't worry, its pretty crappy, but does explain what happened to the "missing passengers" on the flight. And it does have that old guy from "Blade".

In the movie, it is set 500 years in the future, and everyone is dying from a disease or something. SO, to replace the dying population, they build a time machine, and go BACK IN TIME to 1989 to grab people to bring them to the future.
Now, they realize that grabbing people from the past might screw up the future, so they only grab people who are about to dye in horrific plane accidents, and won't be missed.
Basically, just before the plane crashes, they use special "magic" to freeze the plane, grab the passengers, and send them 500 years into the future.

Well, the federal government must have used the same technology to make those people disappear.

Thats more believable then the ridiculous missile-theory, which has no proof, and no way to explain the HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT SAW THE PLANE SMACK INTO THE PENTAGON.

nick

[StellarKnight]

Originally Posted by Hahn

I am not gunna say anymore. Your not looking at the point.

Tell me, where is your ****ing point?

You're a dumb jackass. End of story. Keep on believing nonsense; it makes me cringe at the thought of my generation becoming the next world leaders...

[Charlie_Heston]

Originally Posted by SteveAdelman

If it's not a plane jackass, then where are all the people that where on the plane? Answer me that

Some people I've spoken to believe that the plane had actually landed and people were murdered. Then missile or whatever they feel like believing hit, and plane destroyed...just more conspiracy theory without proof...

[RunningWithSheep]

Originally Posted by 25bps

Here's your plane

The funny thing is, how those are the ONLY pictures I have actually seen which contain anything plane related.

[Ironcast]

old video. its been on the internet forever.

[25bps (Banned)]

Originally Posted by RunningWithSheep

The funny thing is, how those are the ONLY pictures I have actually seen which contain anything plane related.

You morons want more? I've had these pictures on my hard drive for months.

[TheSpy11]

25bps:

Only half of those pictures can be proven to a non-eyewitness that they were actually taken at the Pentagon. In fact, some of them show evidence that it wasn't a 757 (like the hole pictures). There definitely was an airplane of some sort that hit the Pentagon, and that might explain some of the pictures as true. After that though, no one knows for sure what happened. I'm sure the government does, but they surely want to keep us in question based on the lack of video evidence to prove their theory. That's all I want--undoctored video showing their claim to be true. If they can't provide it, i will never believe them. That shouldn't be too much to ask for.

This whole Pentagon stuff is beside the point in reality. It's the weakest of the four conspiracy arguments. Debating other 9/11 issues should be much more important.