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Old 05-02-2006, 05:41 PM #1
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interceptor problems again

Some more alien leak issues

aired it up and now I have a leak located at the back of the front block.
I changed an oring and have already replaced the hose going to the solenoid so I have no idea what the issue could be

again, im considering sending it to the techs and jack back in california but Im trying to avoid that.
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Old 05-02-2006, 08:15 PM #2
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nope, like i said its at the back of the front block and i leaks out just under the eye covers...
also a wire was cut to my eyes awhile ago so im probably going to send it back to get replaced
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Old 05-02-2006, 08:19 PM #3
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check the hose to see if its leaking from where the barb is.


don't bother sending it in, buy a new eye set, and plug it in yourself (easier, and you won't be gunless for that period of time)


if you can fix the leak, never send the marker in for something so easy to fix
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Old 05-02-2006, 09:41 PM #5
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I think i found the problem

when the front block came shooting off (for some reason or another) it left a small 'gash' along the cylinder where the o-ring is
I replaced that oring but I think the air is actually leaking around it... Im going to see if a bit of teflon will wrk but I await anyones approval
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Hey I think I have the same exact problem man! Except, mine came from overtightening the set screw when it wasn't in place... left a nice gash around the o-ring area, as you said...

You think replacing the o-ring would work? I thought of that, then teflon tape, then maybe dow 55 to swell the o-ring so it seals it undoubtedly, but I'm not sure on any of these ideas... I'll be getting air tomorrow to see if thats really what the leak is from.
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Old 05-02-2006, 10:57 PM #7
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wow
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yah I replaced the oring but to no avail
Im going to (hopefully) get some air tomorrow and same thing with teflon/dow33
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I would advise against the teflon tape idea. Teflon shreds, and if it somehow got into your solenoid...well, you'd be sad. Using the proper o-ring is always better, maybe Jack can tell you what size they are.

If it really is leaking around the oring due to a gash in the aluminum, you might want to ask Jack for a new one. You'd probably have to pay for it, but its better than paying for new solenoid.
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Yeah I think I'll end up having to order a new front block peice, but I'm still gonna try to find another way... it was shooting perfectly for a little while after it happened, but then when I rechrono'd the reff played with the reg and it started shooting wicked inconsistently and massive drop off....
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yah Im probably going to order a new front block.

however the gun did come with some replacement orings that were a bit loose, is it possible to swell them then use those?
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That's what I was hoping to do - swell the o-ring to completely seal it, even if there is a gash.
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AHA, eurika!
I took some teflon, rolled it into a string and placed it under the oring, there's a little leakage but not nearly as much as before.
only a temporary solution until i get a better oring
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Haha, awesome - maybe I'll try that... You think some of the o-rings that came with the gun would work, or should I try for a larger size (if so, what size do you think would work...)

My idea on this is that if I either get a bigger o-ring, or use Dow 55 to swell the current o-ring, it will seal the leak caused by the little gash...

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Old 05-03-2006, 10:52 PM #14
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Im using dow 55 to swell another oring to replace the teflon, but I have only had the teflon on when the gun was at less than full pressure and when the gun was shot a swab was in the breech
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Just curious, where did you buy the Dow 55? My local shop doesn't have it, neither does Ace hardwarer... nor Sears...
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I think the teflon is ok to use in that part of the gun as the only place for it to get blown into is the valve, breech or your barrel. It could get in between the bolt and receiver or may get caught on the poppit.... but, point is, the noid is safe.

If the o-ring is too big to begin with then dow55 is not going to help.

Teflon under the o-ring... not a bad idea, its been done on some timmy lprs back when they shipped with the wrong o-rings a couple of years ago. In fact, I did that at Blast's direction.

Email Jack for o-rings as soon as possible, and use blue locktite on your Front Block retaining screw so that the darn things don't "shoot off" the gun any more....
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it did shoot off the gun, it was scary as hell. aired it up, then POP
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Teflon tape under the O-Ring OK.
The Orings are standard 015 bottle O-Rings. You might try some smaller O-Rings that are fat ands stretch them - it's just a seal.
I'll wait and see if anyone else has theis problem, could use red locktite so they don't ever come loose but then disassembly would be pretty tough.
Be careful not to overcompensate and overtighten those set screws.
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The O-ring sizes were fine until there was a gash in that area... so now I want to swell the o-ring (make it bigger ) so it seals completely and air doesn't sneak out through the nicked area... err.. yeah I think that's right...
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it did shoot off the gun, it was scary as hell. aired it up, then POP
the good thing was that i think if I had cronny'd the front block I'd have gotten damn close to 300fps (he's back)

I'll pick up some locktite later for this but now im gonna put some paint through the alein and my 03matrix because I just fixed both of them
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