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Old 04-28-2006, 06:09 PM #22
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You people are stupid. There's a ton of things that do a better job than "medicinal" pot. You hippies just want to get high.

I've noticed most of the people rallying to make it available are a) washed up politicians desperate for a backing.. or b) grunge looking hippies.

Someone in 2 sentences or less tell me why exactly marijuana and marijuauna alone should be used for any one medical application whereas nothing else should?

Go get baked and sleep on it.
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I wrote a paper about Weed for chem. This is one of my last rough drafts, i cant find the final digital copy, but im looking at the graded one now, not much different besides citation and som punctuation and awk sentences. My teachers comments on the paper " Interesting! Strong thesis, Strong conclusion, Learn to punctuate! You convinced me!"

My paper received a 135/150

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Tetra-Hydro-Cannabinol
Marijuana has been illegal for over 60 years in the United States with few exceptions. Marijuana is still illegal because of the supposed health issues involved. Some scientists claim that Marijuana negatively effects memory and learning, distorted perception, difficulty in thinking and problem solving, loss of coordination, and gives people an increased heart rate. Also Some studies also say that Marijuana smoke is much more dangerous than tobacco smoke and is more likely to give those using this drug lung cancer. However there are and biased studies that refute these statements, or add additional light to these discoveries. Even though marijuana was made illegal in 1937, in 2002 over 83 million Americans admitted to trying marijuana. Furthermore, the war on this drug costs our nation millions and millions of dollars and is also filling our jails with people who merely wish to use a substance. This drug is illegal, however tobacco and alcohol are legal for use and are far worse than this substance. If this substance was legalized not only would there be a excess money for government spending, open jail cells for real criminals, however the American economy can only benefit from the production and sale of this substance and its by-products.
When someone inhales marijuana, the active ingredient that gives the intended effect, Tetrohydrocannabinol or THC, is rapidly absorb into the bloodstream which distributes the cannaboids all over the body including to the brain. In the brain, the THC connects to specific receptors called cannabinoid receptors which are on nerve cells. When the THC attaches to the receptors in the brain it has adverse effects. Some areas in the brain have many cannabinoid receptors; others have few or none. The concentration of cannabinoid receptors are in the areas of the brain that are thought to control pleasure, memory, thought, concentration, sensory and time perception, and coordinated movement. Two new studies have failed to find evidence of actually brain damage in monkeys exposed to marijuana. The two studies were conducted by two separate independent companies. The first study was conducted by Dr. William Slikker, Jr. and others at the National Center for Toxicological Research in Arkansas. They studied 64 rhesus monkeys, some of which were exposed to daily or weekly doses of marijuana smoke for a year. The other experiments were performed by Gordon T. Pryor and Charles Rebert at SRI International in Menlo Park, California, and this experiment looked at over 30 rhesus monkeys that had inhaled marijuana from one to three times a day over periods of 6 to 12 months. Neither of these studies showed any structural or neuro-chemical changes in the brains of the monkeys when examined a few months after they stopped forcing the monkeys to inhale marijuana smoke. Also, medical Marijuana has been shown to be effective in reducing the nausea induced by cancer chemotherapy, stimulating appetite in AIDS patients, and reducing inner-eye pressure in people with glaucoma. For twenty-five years, researchers have searched for a marijuana-induced amotivational syndrome and have failed to find it. People who are intoxicated constantly, regardless of the drug, are unlikely to be productive members of society. There is nothing about marijuana that specifically causes people to lose drive or ambition. College students who use marijuana have the same grades as nonusers. Among high school students, heavy use is associated with school failure, however failure usually comes first and the high school users turn to substances afterward. Some anti-marijuana studies say that marijuana changes perception however they fail to mention how long the affects are. It is true that marijuana produces immediate changes in thoughts, perceptions, and information processing, however these changes are temporary like the buzz from tobacco products or the “drunk” from alcohol. The cognitive process most clearly affected by marijuana is short-term memory. In laboratory studies, subjects under the influence of marijuana have no trouble remembering things they learned previously. However, they display diminished capacity to learn and recall new information. This diminishment only lasts for the duration of the intoxication. There is no convincing evidence that heavy long-term marijuana use permanently impairs memory or other cognitive functions. There is no convincing scientific evidence that marijuana causes psychological damage or mental illness in either teenagers or adults. Some studies say that the use of marijuana can cause schizophrenia and a small percentage of those who have schizophrenia had been users of this substance. Even though this is concerning evidence, it is not know whether or not the use of marijuana heightens the chance of getting schizophrenia, or if those who have schizophrenic tendencies use substances to medicate themselves, or if this substance makes the symptoms of schizophrenia more apparent.
The majority of those people who use marijuana use it recreationally like typical users of alcohol. Marijuana smoke contains a large number of irritants and carcinogens however those who use it typically smoke much less and much less often than tobacco smokers, and even though “ puff to puff” marijuana smoke has more carcinogens an average marijuana smoker inhales much less smoke than tobacco users do. There have been no reports of lung cancer related solely to marijuana. However, there are changes in some cells taken from the lungs of heavy marijuana smokers, which shows that it can be potentially cancerous. Unlike tobacco smoke, marijuana smoke dilates the small airways in the lungs which significantly if not destroy the chances of getting emphysema. Furthermore the DEA's Administrative Law Judge, Francis Young said that "In strict medical terms marijuana is far safer than many foods we commonly consume. For example, eating 10 raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death. Marijuana in its natural form is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man. By any measure of rational analysis marijuana can be safely used within the supervised routine of medical care. The World Health Organization released a study in March 1998 that states: "there are good reasons for saying that [the risks from cannabis] would be unlikely to seriously [compare to] the public health risks of alcohol and tobacco even if as many people used cannabis as now drink alcohol or smoke tobacco." This quote from the DEA says it all. Marijuana has its adverse affects however it doesn’t even compare to the negative effects of alcohol or tobacco. Per year, almost 400,000 people die as a result of tobacco products, and a little over 30,000 die from alcohol poisoning or liver disease, however there has not been one proven case of a person dieing solely from marijuana inhalation or consumption.
Many people use marijuana for its therapeutic value, despite its illegality. In doing so, they risk arrest and imprisonment. The U.S. federal government spent over $19 billion dollars in 2003 on the “War on Drugs”. The budget since then has been increased by over a billion dollars. Furthermore state and local governments spend 30 billion dollars on the war on drugs, bringing the total to 50+ billion dollars. In 2002, 45.3 % of the 1,538,813 total arrests for drug abuse violations were for marijuana a total of 697,082 , with the majority being for only possession. Using those statistics we can gather that half the budget is probably used on the “ War on Drugs” is probably geared towards marijuana. If marijuana was legalized this would give the make a surplus in government funding. If marijuana was legalized the economy would benefit from the sale, government would benefit from tax, and innocent people wouldn’t go to jail.

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And that's your opinion and that's why you don't vote for me. Thank you.
Right, it is my opinion, that's why I stated so in my post.

Regardless of how you feel, I think that any reasonably minded person would agree with me that voting for a candidate because of one issue is irresponsible. Do it all you want, you're right in saying that I "don't vote for you." I'm just, once again, stating an opinion.
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Someone in 2 sentences or less tell me why exactly marijuana and marijuauna alone should be used for any one medical application whereas nothing else should?
Smoking marijuana gives AIDS and Cancer patients an actual sense of appetite, and they get nutrients that they normally don't get because they are never hungry.
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Smoking marijuana gives AIDS and Cancer patients an actual sense of appetite, and they get nutrients that they normally don't get because they are never hungry.
And their are other medications on the market that do the same. Legalizing pot for medical uses is just a cover for legalizing it across the board.
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This drug is illegal, penis however tobacco and alcohol are legal for use and are far worse than this substance. If this substance was legalized not only would there be a penis excess money for government spending, open jail cells for real criminals, however the American economy can only benefit from the production and sale of this substance and its by-products.
make sure you get rid of the word penis for the final draft...
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oh yah, my friend had gone through it at school and ****ed with it, the final draft didnt have those in there, lol.

edit: I edited the penises out of the rough draft, lol.

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Can a mod recover it? Yes. Will I? No. Why? Because this is possibly the most retarded debate in the forum (even worse than the religious debates) because neither side uses real facts to back up their arguement. The facts people use are so slanted and not true that it makes me giggle to read these threads.
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I say legalize it. The people who want it banned, don't have any experience using it. They think it is some super addictive that kills you right away, the only knowledge they have is from some health book or some truth commercial. Open your minds people.
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Can a mod recover it? Yes. Will I? No. Why? Because this is possibly the most retarded debate in the forum (even worse than the religious debates) because neither side uses real facts to back up their arguement. The facts people use are so slanted and not true that it makes me giggle to read these threads.
Then you would dispute the "facts" that illegal drugs are a huge source of profit for the underworld, and that the government has no right to use a loophole in the constitution to essentially control what you do to your own body?
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I say legalize it. The people who want it banned, don't have any experience using it. They think it is some super addictive that kills you right away, the only knowledge they have is from some health book or some truth commercial.
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And their are other medications on the market that do the same. Legalizing pot for medical uses is just a cover for legalizing it across the board.

And I have already explained why those medications aren't as effective as smoking marijuana but you are too retarded to understand that concept.
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not completely sure on this but i think they made marijuana use legal in colorado allowing you to have up to an ounce. if this is true it is only a matter of time before lots of other states start legalizing it.
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Possesion is legal in Denver. State and federal officials can still bust you though.
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Noone has mentioned you can ingest marijuana orally, it does not have to be smoked...Ill show you a picture that I've taken to express how I feel on this issue.
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It's now simple. Move to Mexico, they are legalizing everything.
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i live in holland, where weed is legalized. weed is legalized but having more then 5 plants is illigal. so shops have to rely on 'criminals' for their weed keeping the 'criminal market' alive.
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I wrote a paper about Weed for chem. This is one of my last rough drafts, i cant find the final digital copy, but im looking at the graded one now, not much different besides citation and som punctuation and awk sentences. My teachers comments on the paper " Interesting! Strong thesis, Strong conclusion, Learn to punctuate! You convinced me!"

My paper received a 135/150

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Marijuana has been illegal for over 60 years in the United States with few exceptions. Marijuana is still illegal because of the supposed health issues involved. Some scientists claim that Marijuana negatively effects memory and learning, distorted perception, difficulty in thinking and problem solving, loss of coordination, and gives people an increased heart rate. Also Some studies also say that Marijuana smoke is much more dangerous than tobacco smoke and is more likely to give those using this drug lung cancer. However there are and biased studies that refute these statements, or add additional light to these discoveries. Even though marijuana was made illegal in 1937, in 2002 over 83 million Americans admitted to trying marijuana. Furthermore, the war on this drug costs our nation millions and millions of dollars and is also filling our jails with people who merely wish to use a substance. This drug is illegal, however tobacco and alcohol are legal for use and are far worse than this substance. If this substance was legalized not only would there be a excess money for government spending, open jail cells for real criminals, however the American economy can only benefit from the production and sale of this substance and its by-products.
When someone inhales marijuana, the active ingredient that gives the intended effect, Tetrohydrocannabinol or THC, is rapidly absorb into the bloodstream which distributes the cannaboids all over the body including to the brain. In the brain, the THC connects to specific receptors called cannabinoid receptors which are on nerve cells. When the THC attaches to the receptors in the brain it has adverse effects. Some areas in the brain have many cannabinoid receptors; others have few or none. The concentration of cannabinoid receptors are in the areas of the brain that are thought to control pleasure, memory, thought, concentration, sensory and time perception, and coordinated movement. Two new studies have failed to find evidence of actually brain damage in monkeys exposed to marijuana. The two studies were conducted by two separate independent companies. The first study was conducted by Dr. William Slikker, Jr. and others at the National Center for Toxicological Research in Arkansas. They studied 64 rhesus monkeys, some of which were exposed to daily or weekly doses of marijuana smoke for a year. The other experiments were performed by Gordon T. Pryor and Charles Rebert at SRI International in Menlo Park, California, and this experiment looked at over 30 rhesus monkeys that had inhaled marijuana from one to three times a day over periods of 6 to 12 months. Neither of these studies showed any structural or neuro-chemical changes in the brains of the monkeys when examined a few months after they stopped forcing the monkeys to inhale marijuana smoke. Also, medical Marijuana has been shown to be effective in reducing the nausea induced by cancer chemotherapy, stimulating appetite in AIDS patients, and reducing inner-eye pressure in people with glaucoma. For twenty-five years, researchers have searched for a marijuana-induced amotivational syndrome and have failed to find it. People who are intoxicated constantly, regardless of the drug, are unlikely to be productive members of society. There is nothing about marijuana that specifically causes people to lose drive or ambition. College students who use marijuana have the same grades as nonusers. Among high school students, heavy use is associated with school failure, however failure usually comes first and the high school users turn to substances afterward. Some anti-marijuana studies say that marijuana changes perception however they fail to mention how long the affects are. It is true that marijuana produces immediate changes in thoughts, perceptions, and information processing, however these changes are temporary like the buzz from tobacco products or the “drunk” from alcohol. The cognitive process most clearly affected by marijuana is short-term memory. In laboratory studies, subjects under the influence of marijuana have no trouble remembering things they learned previously. However, they display diminished capacity to learn and recall new information. This diminishment only lasts for the duration of the intoxication. There is no convincing evidence that heavy long-term marijuana use permanently impairs memory or other cognitive functions. There is no convincing scientific evidence that marijuana causes psychological damage or mental illness in either teenagers or adults. Some studies say that the use of marijuana can cause schizophrenia and a small percentage of those who have schizophrenia had been users of this substance. Even though this is concerning evidence, it is not know whether or not the use of marijuana heightens the chance of getting schizophrenia, or if those who have schizophrenic tendencies use substances to medicate themselves, or if this substance makes the symptoms of schizophrenia more apparent.
The majority of those people who use marijuana use it recreationally like typical users of alcohol. Marijuana smoke contains a large number of irritants and carcinogens however those who use it typically smoke much less and much less often than tobacco smokers, and even though “ puff to puff” marijuana smoke has more carcinogens an average marijuana smoker inhales much less smoke than tobacco users do. There have been no reports of lung cancer related solely to marijuana. However, there are changes in some cells taken from the lungs of heavy marijuana smokers, which shows that it can be potentially cancerous. Unlike tobacco smoke, marijuana smoke dilates the small airways in the lungs which significantly if not destroy the chances of getting emphysema. Furthermore the DEA's Administrative Law Judge, Francis Young said that "In strict medical terms marijuana is far safer than many foods we commonly consume. For example, eating 10 raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death. Marijuana in its natural form is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man. By any measure of rational analysis marijuana can be safely used within the supervised routine of medical care. The World Health Organization released a study in March 1998 that states: "there are good reasons for saying that [the risks from cannabis] would be unlikely to seriously [compare to] the public health risks of alcohol and tobacco even if as many people used cannabis as now drink alcohol or smoke tobacco." This quote from the DEA says it all. Marijuana has its adverse affects however it doesn’t even compare to the negative effects of alcohol or tobacco. Per year, almost 400,000 people die as a result of tobacco products, and a little over 30,000 die from alcohol poisoning or liver disease, however there has not been one proven case of a person dieing solely from marijuana inhalation or consumption.
Many people use marijuana for its therapeutic value, despite its illegality. In doing so, they risk arrest and imprisonment. The U.S. federal government spent over $19 billion dollars in 2003 on the “War on Drugs”. The budget since then has been increased by over a billion dollars. Furthermore state and local governments spend 30 billion dollars on the war on drugs, bringing the total to 50+ billion dollars. In 2002, 45.3 % of the 1,538,813 total arrests for drug abuse violations were for marijuana a total of 697,082 , with the majority being for only possession. Using those statistics we can gather that half the budget is probably used on the “ War on Drugs” is probably geared towards marijuana. If marijuana was legalized this would give the make a surplus in government funding. If marijuana was legalized the economy would benefit from the sale, government would benefit from tax, and innocent people wouldn’t go to jail.
I wouldn't even bother grading that paper because it's so blatantly biased and poorly written.
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