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Old 03-28-2006, 06:38 PM #43
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Well I gotta see this thing... and compare it to my Dragun T1. They both ARE FASOR. (Forward Air Spring Operated Return) Suprise to hear it can cycle that fast with spring. My T1 can only cycle about 25 bps or so max. Is the spring like a tough spring?
Legend Kinda reminds me of this gun, http://dangerouspower.com/

Are you guys gonna be at World Cup? Hope to see that thing there....
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Old 03-28-2006, 09:39 PM #44
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Glenn knows his stuff he wouldnt sell a crappy product and he proved that at hb with everyones gun ripping, Plus there are still more improvments that he is doing right now
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Old 03-28-2006, 09:54 PM #45
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We already have alot of name on our preorder list so I suggest you get yours on their if you want one.

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Any chance I could put my name on that list, and just not pay for one?
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Glenn knows his stuff he wouldnt sell a crappy product and he proved that at hb with everyones gun ripping, Plus there are still more improvments that he is doing right now
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Old 03-28-2006, 10:29 PM #47
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I shot it and it didnt seem that special but it was light and had a load of bounce....the grips werent that comfortable, and the reg adapter was ugly, I noticed that you could turn the eye covers to expose the eye. I cant wait for the final product to come out to see the improvements...for the price they said, it seemed pretty good.

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I shot it and it didnt seem that spacial but it was light and had a load of bounce....the grips werent that comfortable, and the reg adapter was ugly, I noticed that you could turn the eye covers to expose the eye. I cant wait for the final product to come out to see the improvements...for the price they said, it seemed pretty good.
It was in PSP mode but I do not think it was capped at 15. The reballs were acting ery bad and were sticking and getting jammed horribly in the loader. The eye covers were just loose. The grips are being changed.
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Old 03-28-2006, 11:58 PM #49
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Old 03-29-2006, 08:23 AM #50
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Old 03-29-2006, 10:28 AM #51
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im not gonna judge till i see/shoot one, and I'm always curious about new types of designs and such and try to be receptive to them. who knows, might be the next big thing. but i have a few Q's for the guys at infinity if they care to answer them in response to why they feel spring return is superior.
-yes, spring return guns CAN be as fast or faster than air returned guns. the reason most arent is they have LPR's. the tighter the spring, the faster the ram can cycle. however, the LPR pressure must be able to overcome the pressure of the spring, right? so the spring can only be so tight in order for the air from the LPR to still be able to overcome it. the Legend bypasses this by not using an LPR, and the higher ram operating pressure allows a tighter spring to be used, yielding higher fps. however wouldnt this higher ram operating pressure cause more kick? are you using an extremely small/light hammer or something to balance this? also, wouldnt this make the gun harder on paint?

-is it true that spring returned guns generally arent as consistent as air returned? is there anything different in the legend to address this, if it is true?

it seems like the spring return and lack of an LPR would help efficiency (lower dwell, half as much air needed for ram, etc) but it seems that the problems you solve by using this design are replaced by different problems that generally are the reason spring returns arent popular. i assume the stuff you said about having alot of new internal elements in previous posts are to fix this, just curious about it.
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Old 03-29-2006, 05:06 PM #52
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what vid? were is this video casue i would sure like to c it
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there fast, but the way they work is a lot like the Wrath
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Old 03-29-2006, 06:28 PM #54
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i taped it while i was there caus ei knew it would be big
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Old 03-29-2006, 08:02 PM #55
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I havnt talked to Scott since before HB, but is HK, not LordsofHk, But HK shooting them now, cause i know kenny was shooting one....
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Old 03-29-2006, 10:30 PM #56
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The LA WildCards and a few memebers from team LAW shot the Legend in HB. From what I understand the gun worked flawlessly 4 them . They were getting excellent shot counts and the gun was ripping after a few software and trigger tweaks.
Heres a shot of the gun in action ;
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Theres more of the Legend, just look thru the photo archive and look 4 the WildCard jerseys.
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Old 03-29-2006, 10:56 PM #57
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i still wanna see that video of the gun maybe when i go back to crossfire ill ask the guy there from splat kids if he can make one casue i did shoot it there b4 the premire at hb and it shot great but i think a video will settle the controverisie about this gun
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Old 03-29-2006, 11:12 PM #58
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i still wanna see that video of the gun maybe when i go back to crossfire ill ask the guy there from splat kids if he can make one casue i did shoot it there b4 the premire at hb and it shot great but i think a video will settle the controverisie about this gun
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Old 03-31-2006, 01:05 PM #59
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Its a Spider on Steroids! Milling is Harsh looks like it was a Mold made in Japan
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Old 03-31-2006, 04:42 PM #60
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Scrout Hunter - Yhose are still prototype bodies the milling marks will be gone when the production like is done. They are actually made in America, about 5 min. from my house.
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Scrout Hunter - Yhose are still prototype bodies the milling marks will be gone when the production like is done. They are actually made in America, about 5 min. from my house.

what miling marks? and what will the newer bodies look like compared to these?
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SK Joe - They will look the same for the most part except for some sharp edge rounding. On the prototype bodies you can still see the machining marks from the mill's ect. They will be gone on the production run.
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Old 03-31-2006, 08:00 PM #63
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yeah, it was loud, but pretty fast i spose. for 750 i'd rather have something used that has stood the test of time.
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