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Old 03-06-2006, 02:33 PM #1
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The Ultimate Lube Thread



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DYE Slick Lube


Green stuff - Not as popular as other after market lubes
Pros: Won't void warranty on DYE/Proto markers. Safe on o-rings and does not swell.
Cons: Not as slick as after market lubes. Does not work well in cold weather.

White of Pink stuff - Same as Dow33 (Look at Dow33 description)
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Slick Honey


This is a popular slick lube.
Pros: One of the slickest lubes you can buy. This enables you to lower LPR and reduce kick.
Cons: Most say it does not do as well in cold weather. Problems tend to occur when you overlube which can cause shootdown.

Is Slick Honey really bad in Cold Weather?

Quote:
Originally Posted by MackyGOG
The issue I have seen is the same issue the thread starter has. TO MUCH LUBE. I only use 4-5 little dab of Slick Honey on the end of my finger and that it. I played in 25-45 degrees and never get drop off.

I seen people use what would apppear to be almost hand fulls.

For those preaching DOW33, thats what we used on the LED Matrix when it came out and it gummed up in the cold that why we thinned it out with some Gold Cup or KC gun oil or sumfin like that. Hence the creation of "Matrix Muck"

"Matrix Muck" was perferred until Will from Tadao recommend Slick Honey cause he uses it in Trauma's guns. He warned us not to use that much then. Heck I have the same 4 oz bottle I started using 2 years ago taking care of 15 DM's of Notorious and what ever else comes my way. I still have half a bottle.

Any Who thanks for paying attention to the history class.
Buzzy's Slick Honey is usually available in any specialty bike shops... you can find it on various online Paintball stores or you can just google it.
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Dow 33 (shocker lube)


Good all around lube
Pros: This lube can be used in any weather conditions. The temperature range for Dow 33 is -100 to 400 Degrees Fahrenheit. It's easy to apply on o-rings. It is a pinkish color so its easy to see to lube on the o-rings. Last longer so you don't have to lube after every game. DYE techs now recommend Dow 33 and will not void warantee.
Cons: Some say it gums up in the cold. Not as slick as some after market brands.

*NEW*
SLEEK Lube (new shocker lube)

Same as DOW 33 (Shocker Lube)

You might see the lube either in pink or white:
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I bought some Sl33k this month, and mine is still pink as well.
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Originally Posted by Nemrod View Post
You should know...dow 33 has gone white! DUN DUN DUNNNNNNN!
Dow 55
*NOTE* Not to be confused with Dow 55. Dow 55 lube swells o-rings.

Specifically designed for o-rings, and to swell o-rings for sealing applications. However, gun techs have found that Dow 55 actually deteriorates o-rings and eventually breaks the seal. Therefore, it is not recommended on DYE/Proto markers.
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Krunk Sauce

Review:
http://www.pbreview.com/products/reviews/5046/
http://www.freewebs.com/krunksauce/whatitisreviews.htm
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...0#post30617640
Where:
http://www.freewebs.com/krunksauce/index.htm
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Lurker Lube

Review:http://www.pbreview.com/products/rev...=new&prod=5000
Where: http://www.lurkerpaintball.com/
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Hater Sauce - New Favorite lube in the DM/Proto forums. Some say they prefer to use this over Slick Honey.

Quote:
Originally Posted by haterpb
To clarify, the cold will not affect Hater Sauce. It does not freeze and will not harden. It will perform the same in -25* weather as 100* weather.
Pros and Cons: Refer to Original Review on Hater Sauce:
Quote:
Originally Posted by lilman

So I aquired some Hater Sauce paintball lube to try out on my guns. Immidiately I noticed the nice packaging. It comes in a small twist top container. Once you open it the smell is very strong. The smell is hard to describe. The best way I could think of is very lube-like. This smell might turn some people away. I like it though .

I proceeded to lube up my two spool valve guns with the stuff. For reference, an ion and a proto were used for testing. While applying the lube it was obvious to me that this stuff was super slick. Not only was it slick, but it was sticky at the same time. The bolts in my guns were moving smoothly as if I applied slick honey to them (my previous favorite lube).

I played a full day with my proto the next day. I woke up bright and early so that I could test the gun is the coldest weather conditions California could have. It was around 50* F, my gun didn't have any dropoff nor did it have any bolt stick. All day the gun worked flawless.

When I got home I took out the bolt and examined it. The o-rings were still super slick. Usually after a hard day of play slick honey would start to come off of the o-rings. During the day I didn't notice any consistancy or velocity improvements. I did not test for that specifically though. To be honest, I was itching bad to go out and play.

Pros:
-Slick
-Sticky (lasts longer)
-Nick packaging
-Designed for paintball (won't swell o-rings)
-Cheap (The price for 2 oz is $13. I use much less of this stuff than other lubes because I didn't need as much. For multiple lubing jobs on my guns and others I have just used the lube that was sticking to the top cap).

Neutral:
-Smelly

Neg:
-Sticky (hard to get off your fingers)

In conclusion, I would recommend to anyone to buy this lube. You will have to lube your gun less and you will get to play more. I would really like to hear other peoples oppinions on this lube.
Original Thread:
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=1363765

Seems to do well in cold weather:
Quote:
Originally Posted by THEBETTERONE
I left the gun outside in 40 degree weather for 20 minutes, then shot paint through it, there was no drop off or bolt stick, it shot flawlessly, with slick honey or dye lube it won't even cycle.

Pro's

Good Price for the product
Very slick
stays on o-rings for a long time.
Excellent for cold weather.
Easy to use.

Con's

Absolutely none so far.
Original Thread:
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=1381076 by THEBETTERONE
Additional review: http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=1382225 by Sportdeamon89
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Hater Sauce v2


Quote:
New v2.0 formula.
  • Lower coefficient of friction compared to the original Hater Sauce. Hater Sauce v2.0 surpasses the "slickness" of any lubricant used in paintball markers today. In most markers, the user can dramatically reduce the LPR pressure of their marker when using Hater Sauce WITHOUT dropoff! Such a reduction in LPR pressure greatly reduces kick of the marker which allows a more stable marker setup.
  • Added stabilizers prevent Hater Sauce from hardening even in the harshest conditions.
  • New packaging!
  • New GREEN color.
  • Stays Where You Put It - Hater Sauce does not become runny, which means the user has to lube their markers less often!
  • Designed Specifically for the sport of Paintball - Hater Sauce is the only lubricant designed to meet the demands of today’s high performance paintball markers in all climates and conditions.
Review: http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=1898428
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Hater Marmalade


Reviews:
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=2385979
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=2433495

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Shocktech Gun Butta

Pros: Similar to Slick Honey. Enables you to lower LPR and reduce kick.
Cons: Haven't heard of any.
The only review I found on Shocktech Gun Butta: http://www.pbreview.com/products/reviews/4269/
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Slickoleum


Review (courtesy of Nemrod):
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...2#post23609812
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...7#post23609997

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Old 03-06-2006, 02:34 PM #2
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The Ultimate Lube Thread (cont)

CrackedPB PBStick

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Well after getting notice that the company CrackedPB was open I decided to place my order for the PBStick. I just bought one tube just to see how it was and it was only 5.00 shipped. It came to my house within 3 days and was packaged well. I popped it open and it smelled...good? I can't really tell, but it smelled different. I was skeptical at first that it was just relabeled chapstick but it is obviously not.

Well I decided to use it on my basically stock DM6. I took out just about everything in the gun besides the noid. I lubed up the bolt, LPR, and HPR. Lubing with this thing was incredibly clean and easy. I could see myself doing this on the field it was so fast (not really but still). I got her all lubed up and decided to test it out to see if I got any benefits besides ease of use.

Before using this lube my gun was shooting perfectly at about 290. I lubed it up and used my handheld chrono and was hitting 310?! So I lowered my HPR and my LPR a bit and I was shooting around 300 at that time. Lowered the LPR a bit more and finally got it back to where it was. I shot about 1,000 round of reball snapping with my friend. I decided to see how it had lasted. NO impact on it, still the same amount I put on in the beginning.

The gun feels smoother and more consistent now and I can for sure feel the difference. I would pick this up for sure. It's pretty good pricing too.
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Evil Pus

Good all around lube
Pros:Similar to Dow 33 (Shocker Lube)
Cons:none that I found.
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Silly Boyz Lube


Pros and Cons: Refer to 2k2nastyimpy review
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2k2nastyimpy
The Silly Boyz Lube is sort of like a mix of Slick Honey, I threw some on my bolt and let the gun sit outside at just over 40 Degrees for about 30 min, it didn't muck up like Slick Honey does in cold weather. It is a very smooth mix of lube and it is now my choice of lube!

** I have no affiliation with Silly Boyz and was just asked to perform a little beta testing for them, I repeat I am not affiliated with The manufactor of these tools**
If you want this stuff... go to the original thread for contact info:
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=1284010
http://www.sillyboyzproducts.com/sillylube.html
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Mookies Urban Gun Goo


From tagsportz:
We have found it to work wonders in cold weather on Shockers and DM4's/5's/C's.

They have an interesting money back garantee... but I can't post it because of the language.... need to go tagsportz website to read it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by R3MY
Personal Review for M.U.G.G./Gun Butta:
I've been using M.U.G.G./Gun Butta for about a year now, so I think I can give a good review on it/them. First of all, it's super slick. It's allowed me to lower my LPR to 2-2 1/2 turns out with no shoot down or drop off. Second, it works incredibly well in the cold. Even running my LPR at 2 turns out in 40 weather I still had no shoot down or drop off. Third, and probabaly best of all, it stays on orings. You can lube it before you play, play a good hard days worth of games, take your bolt out and it still looks like you just lubed it (I've personally tried this in both cold and hot weather). I've gone 3 weeks (playing every sunday) without lubing and my guns still shot fine.

EDIT: I'm currently using M.U.G.G., just to clarify.
Quote:
Originally Posted by GrimSlayer
mookies urban gun goo is possibly the worst lube you can use i got some from a local proshop and put it in my DM4. i was having MAJOR bolt stick it took about 20-30 shots to just get the bolt to move! itd be better to use it as a glue then a lube....

pros: nothing at all

con: WAY too thick, sticky, bolt stick, just terrible lube
VoltagePB's Slick Stuff


Quote:
Buckeye Matrix
I have used the lube for a couple cases of play by now. The viscosity is very good. The stuff stays on the bolt quite well. On the bolt stem of a matrix marker a tech will put a little bit extra on and it has stayed there. So far the most impressive aspect is the lube's longevity. I still have the original coating on my bolt. I do notice buildup in the eye canals, (where the electronic eyes are recessed.) I am not sure if slick honey does this, but your lube is visible there, while slick honey is a little more translucent. As far as lubrication, the bolt moves well and freely. I do not notice a dramatic increase in slickness. It is very comparable to slick honey or matrix muck. The design of the bolt and fit of orings does cause drag so maybe your lube and slick honey have loosened it up as much as possible. My chrono readings are consistent and comparable to the other top lubes. With a good paint to barrel match and good conditions, I am getting about +- 5 fps. That is pretty standard. I am going to try your lube on my old matrix bolt. It is very slick, much free-er than a dm fuse bolt. Just thought I would chime in with a quick update.
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This "Slick Stuff" works great. Perfect in cold weather and in warm. No Bolt stick and it makes the bolt flow wonderfully. I reccomend this stuff for anyone looking to buy a good lube for their paintball markers. Great Price also. Can't beat $5.00!
Quote:
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this slick stuff amde my gun mroe consistant over the chrono. Before i was shooting 283,294,272 now im shooting 290,292,29
Quote:
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I've used multiple lubes on my dm4, and honestly the VoltagePB, works the best, lasts longer, and is the most effecient lube I ever used...
Links:
http://www.VoltagePB.com
http://www.VoltagePaintballGear.com
http://www.freewebs.com/donna-austin...slickstuff.htm
http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?t=353611
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Banana Slick Lube

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shad3
i give a 9/10 to banana slick lube

Pros:
Cheap
WORKS GREAT
lets you lower your settings
cool person runs it
nice people
EXELLENT chrono readings
smells good

Cons:
its a new lube, not to much info out about it right now, thats the point of this review.
Review: http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=1707707
Links: http://www.bananaslick.com
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Super Slick Sauce v2


Review: http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...1#post34088181
Links: www.Gen7Pb.Com Coming Soon!
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Triflow

This lube is not safe for o-rings unless mixed with another type of lube.

Here is thread triflow and o-rings:

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=1295992

here are few quotes i found when searching tri-flow:

Quote:
Originally Posted by french_bum
dye lube+tri-flow. Works wonders, trust me.

I know my DM's. Other lubes work just fine, but this is what I use. Don't mix
in a ton of tri-flow, just enough to turn it into a runnier paste. Works
wonders and doesn't swell orings.
Quote:
Originally Posted by P8ntball4Less
slick honey mixed in with try flow or dow mixed with triflow works awsome
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Matrix Muck

MackyGOG suggest 3 parts Dow33 to 1 Gold Cup or KC gun oil (or to at least get it to a consistency of pudding)
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Evolve Cinnamon Grease


Pros: No info
Cons: No info

No review

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awesome, i was just looking into lubes for my pm6. i think this deserves a place in the ultimate stickies.
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Old 03-06-2006, 02:41 PM #4
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it should already be in the stickies from a olddddd thread of mine.. i thought it got added then... hmm well lets make sure its in there now
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I don't think it was added... or maybe we wouldn't have anymore questions on lubes haha... j/k

ASSALBERT: thanks... hope it was helpful
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Im gonna have to disagree with what was said about slick honey coming off after a lond day of play. After lubing my gun with slick honey I can usually leave it with out being lubed for 2-3 more days of play.

Other than that Good Job
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Thanks for comp... and thanks for your honesty. It is good to disagree and back it up with your experiences. Thanks for your input in this thread and I hope people can learn from it. In one of the reviews (in this thread) someone said, "Usually after a hard day of play slick honey would start to come off of the o-rings." Therefore I included it in the Slick Honey section. As for me, I aways clean my marker and re-lube everything after a day of playing... Thanks again for your mature disagreement. It's really all about learning from others... through their experiences
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dow 32?? do you have a link
Here are a couple sites that have it:
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Good sticky material
Hater sauce and Gun Butta FTW
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mookies urban gun goo is possibly the worst lube you can use i got some from a local proshop and put it in my DM4. i was having MAJOR bolt stick it took about 20-30 shots to just get the bolt to move! itd be better to use it as a glue then a lube....

pros: nothing at all

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I was hoping someone tested this. I updated the thread... pending what others have to say about it. Thanks again!
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"Dye slick lube Cons: Not as slick as after market lubes"

it's slick, it just has a tendency to stick up in any sort of chilly weather. it's perfectly fine for warm california weather (where dye is based out of )
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"Dye slick lube Cons: Not as slick as after market lubes"

it's slick, it just has a tendency to stick up in any sort of chilly weather. it's perfectly fine for warm california weather (where dye is based out of )
I think there might be a few that will say that some lubes are more slick than Dye slick lube, but you have a point on the chilly weather. I agree that Dye Slick lube is fine in warm weather. Look at my location

LostFaction15: do you have any pros and cons on "type o positive"? you can PM me a pic.. and I'll add it to the list. thanks...

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I think there might be a few that will say that some lubes are more slick than Dye slick lube, but you have a point on the chilly weather. I agree that Dye Slick lube is fine in warm weather. Look at my loaction
no doubt, it's slicker than dow but may not be as slick as slick honey.
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i am about to get a proto, so I am doing a little research on lubes and this was very helpful. I didn't see anything in the Ultimate sticky on lubes
Good thing search is working for me right now!

looks like I'll be getting some Hater sauce
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Mookies Urban Gun Goo and Shocktech Gun Butta are the same thing. I've used both, owned both and have seen no difference in lube or performance. They're both excellent lubes, and work incredibly well in the cold. As for the the negative review on it, I don't know what he's talking about. M.U.G.G. is super slick, so it shouldn't cause Bolt Sitck. I run all my dm's at 2-2 1/2 turns out on the LPR with no Bolt Stick or Shoot Down, shooting a consistant +/- 4 at around 280 using all stock settings. IMO it's the best lube on the market for the matrix family, although I haven't tried hater sauce. Whenever I get my hater sauce I'll try it and see. But as of right now, MU.G.G./Gun Butta is my lube-o-choice.

Personal Review for M.U.G.G./Gun Butta:
I've been using M.U.G.G./Gun Butta for about a year now, so I think I can give a good review on it/them. First of all, it's super slick. It's allowed me to lower my LPR to 2-2 1/2 turns out with no shoot down or drop off. Second, it works incredibly well in the cold. Even running my LPR at 2 turns out in 40 weather I still had no shoot down or drop off. Third, and probabaly best of all, it stays on orings. You can lube it before you play, play a good hard days worth of games, take your bolt out and it still looks like you just lubed it (I've personally tried this in both cold and hot weather). I've gone 3 weeks (playing every sunday) without lubing and my guns still shot fine.

EDIT: I'm currently using M.U.G.G., just to clarify.
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i have three tubes of dye slick lube and three of honey slick, what should I use first? I live in British Columbia (interior) Canada.
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