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Old 06-30-2015, 10:45 AM #1
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g6r lurker eigenram' what are your thoughts and reviews

I'm interested in what everyone thinks about the lurker eigenram for the g6r
Bad or good side like to hear your opinions.
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Old 06-30-2015, 11:17 AM #2
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I hear it works, but it does the same thing as the lp poppet. The lp poppet and the eigenram cannot be used together.
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Old 06-30-2015, 02:12 PM #3
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I'm more interested in it reducing kick
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Old 06-30-2015, 02:14 PM #4
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We'll both the lp poppet and the eigenram will slightly reduce kick. Do you already have a lp poppet in your marker?
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The Eigenram should reduce the kick more than the LP poppet.

Both the LP poppet and the Eigenram extend the valving action such that the valve is open longer. This is needed with a lighter ram (Eigenram is about 50% of stock with the brass insert in place). The idea is to keep your settings close to stock and realize the benefit of less mass moving in the gun.

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Old 06-30-2015, 06:12 PM #6
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The LP Poppet is, however, easier to tune.
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Old 06-30-2015, 08:28 PM #7
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There is from the man himself, thanks for clarifying Ryan
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I can't seam to get the velocity over 240 now
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Old 07-01-2015, 10:44 AM #9
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You installed it? Are you using both the lp poppet and lurker eigenram?
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Old 07-01-2015, 11:16 AM #10
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I can't seam to get the velocity over 240 now
Be sure you have the HP poppet installed, new poppet oring, new ram orings, Dow55.

LP poppet and the Eigen don't mesh well when it comes to achieving maximum velocity and good consistency.
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Old 07-01-2015, 05:58 PM #11
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Yes I'm using the hp poppet and o rings are lubed and new.
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What are your pressures? If you don't have a pressure tester to check then try balancing your regs and see what the results are.
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Old 07-01-2015, 06:25 PM #13
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I tried all the way up to 80/200
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Old 07-01-2015, 06:40 PM #14
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I tried all the way up to 80/200
Your HP is probably too high and putting too much force on the valve. Try this:
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Lurker method of sweetspotting regs.

1: Back out both regs or Zero out both the LPR and HPR to 0psi
2: Raise HPR slightly only to set LPR for cycling
3: Raise LPR to fully cycling ~45psi or so
4: Raise HPR until velocity begins to stop rising as you increase pressure
5: Raise LPR to desired velocity
6: Lower HPR a bit, then raise if necessary... you're trying to find the best HPR setting at the LPR setting you have. This may put your velocity over 300/285
7: Lower LPR slightly to field velocity
edit: In your case, you can probably start lowering your HP and should see an increase in velocity. Also make sure your paint-to-barrel match is at least decent.
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Old 07-01-2015, 10:02 PM #15
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I've tried that method and end up with. High lpr and low hpr setting
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I'd also check rear ram o-ring - I assembled most of the gen5 rams dry years ago so the rings might not have stayed stable.

In most cases running a little more dwell gets you extra velocity for the sweet spotting procedure.

What spring are you running for the g6r?
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Old 07-02-2015, 09:25 AM #17
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I'll try a new ram o ring. The dwell was at 6ms. And the spring used was the one that came with the ram. Used both washers on the lpr side
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I think running 8ms dwell may help you out a bit
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Old 07-02-2015, 11:29 AM #19
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I can try it, but I normally see around a 5 fps change from 6 to 8 dwell
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I'll try a new ram o ring. The dwell was at 6ms. And the spring used was the one that came with the ram. Used both washers on the lpr side

So the long beehive style spring is for gen5 , in the gen6 it's a lot more compressed. You can cut the flared section out completely and get about half the spring force.
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Old 07-02-2015, 02:08 PM #21
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I just checked your site. The spring i got has the same od start to finish. Looks like the one in the picture of your gen 4

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