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Old 12-24-2014, 07:43 PM #1
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New Bob Long guns coming soon?

Seeing something from the Paintball Expo that there are two classes available.

There is a Onslaught and Phase class being offered. Anyone have any clue on these?
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Old 12-24-2014, 10:32 PM #2
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Tactical VIS/Victory platform.
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Old 12-25-2014, 12:51 PM #3
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Old 01-05-2015, 01:47 PM #4
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Now that would be hilarious.
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Old 01-05-2015, 01:49 PM #5
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Tactical VIS/Victory platform.
Well, one of them is. The other one is mag fed.

Oops. Forget I said that.

Obviously that's a comedy bit, I don't have an insider track to Bob's shop, but I do have an overly active imagination.
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Old 01-06-2015, 01:44 PM #6
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Ah, this is where a thread like this belongs. It certainly doesn't belong in the news section.

There are indeed two guns that bob has put out. What they are is unknown, though there's talk about a mid-level gun. Is it true? who knows. I guess we will find out when the news breaks.

Pump, I don't think that the tatical G6r sold very well. It would be interesting to see a version of that on a victory, though.
Magfed? That would be awesome!
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Old 01-06-2015, 01:53 PM #7
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Ah, this is where a thread like this belongs. It certainly doesn't belong in the news section.
Blah blah blah. You said there are indeed two new guns...that is news to me. Anyhow, moving on.

I am hoping it is a VIS style poppit engine for in the Insight, with new milling, and a mid-level double stack that destroys the Etek 5.
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Old 01-06-2015, 02:11 PM #8
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Blah blah blah. You said there are indeed two new guns...that is news to me. Anyhow, moving on.

I am hoping it is a VIS style poppit engine for in the Insight, with new milling, and a mid-level double stack that destroys the Etek 5.
the G6R already destroys the Etek 5, and it can be had for around $400 used. there's no need for BLAST to compete with themselves.
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the G6R already destroys the Etek 5, and it can be had for around $400 used. there's no need for BLAST to compete with themselves.
A used G6R being purchased doesn't make BL any money. A new mid-range to compete with the current market is a worthwhile endeavor. Assuming it sells.
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Old 01-06-2015, 02:35 PM #10
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A used G6R being purchased doesn't make BL any money. A new mid-range to compete with the current market is a worthwhile endeavor. Assuming it sells.
Not directly, but if people ares still buying the used G6r, that limits the amount of people who will want a mid-level stacked tube from the same company.
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A used G6R being purchased doesn't make BL any money. A new mid-range to compete with the current market is a worthwhile endeavor. Assuming it sells.
The problem is that usually (I'm not saying 100% of the time, but a LOT of the time) the people who are looking for midrange markers and purchasing them are the ones who usually go into a store not sure what to buy.. Those are the type of people who are getting over their GOG markers or tippmans. They aren't sure what to get and usually depend on the person behind the counter to educate them on their next upgrade.

That being said, you can't find Bob longs in most store. At least brand new. Most of the run of the mill B&M stores carry Axes and Ethas/Eteks as their mid tier guns.

Bob really needs to grab some market share and get his markers in those smaller shops. Every time I wanted to purchase a BL marker I had to go through Bob direct or a store like YBPF or Tim2thousand4
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Old 01-06-2015, 03:45 PM #12
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The problem is that usually (I'm not saying 100% of the time, but a LOT of the time) the people who are looking for midrange markers and purchasing them are the ones who usually go into a store not sure what to buy.. Those are the type of people who are getting over their GOG markers or tippmans. They aren't sure what to get and usually depend on the person behind the counter to educate them on their next upgrade.

That being said, you can't find Bob longs in most store. At least brand new. Most of the run of the mill B&M stores carry Axes and Ethas/Eteks as their mid tier guns.

Bob really needs to grab some market share and get his markers in those smaller shops. Every time I wanted to purchase a BL marker I had to go through Bob direct or a store like YBPF or Tim2thousand4
thats one of the pitfalls with Blast is that they dont have as wide of spread in distribution when it comes to dealters. the dealers thay do have are top notch when it comes to "i have money and you have gun, lets trade" but when your core production is just guns. it makes little sense to have a dealer network of the likes you see with KEE/Dye/valken/PE

so unless bobo is "widening the focus" on who to get guns to, I honestly dont see a midrange gun. more likely a budgeted highend. and by that a highend that undercuts marketed higends in that tie,r and then a special release of the saidgun with more.... well, more.

im my opinion, I could care less if hey try to outreach to a midend market or if every shop carries them. if blast is doing mostly dealer direct all you need is a, "go her for the product", simple.
less money is allocated elsewhere, more money is allocated in the product itself.
Id love to see a refined g6r. or at the least something timmy platform.

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I have a question about stacked tubes...I know people still buy them, and most of the big boys are still making them, but I have to wonder, how far is the stacked tube design from going the way of the triple tube/angel style markers?

Bob said in his VIS video that he thinks that will be the next style of marker. Almost as smooth as a spool, efficient as a stacked tube poppit, and in a single tube design. Single tube poppits seem to kick in a more horizontal manner, which at least feels more accurate to me, and theoretically, you should be able to make a more steamlined simpler design with a single tube poppit.

The VIS is way simpler then the G6R or LV1, less parts....
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The G6r is pretty damn simple.
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Personally, I prefer how stacked tube markers point. I know it seems counter-intuitive but I don't point as naturally with single tube markers, for whatever reason. I loved the three Insights I've owned but I prefer the shot, feel and pointability of the G6R.

So even if stacked tubes "go the way of the Angel", that's fine...I'll still shoot them, just as I still shoot Angels.
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Old 01-07-2015, 04:24 PM #16
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The VIS is way simpler then the G6R or LV1, less parts....
ram, valve and spring.




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I hope it is a 50 cal conversion kit for the VIS and VCOM engines...
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you take that back!
Haha. Funny thing is, I would probably buy it and play rec ball with it if the field sold the paint. I need something else to play around with and am not allowed to buy any more guns ;-)
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