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Old 02-14-2006, 01:09 AM #1
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Alternate trigger frames: Dye, WDP, etc?

So has anyone tried putting an alternate trigger frame on the Wrath? All the questions of where to put the noid, etc, can be addressed later, but I'd be curious to know if the screw positions on the wrath match up with a DM5 frame, a WDP frame, etc.
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Old 02-14-2006, 01:13 AM #2
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Eblades can bolt right on.

jj is trying to get one to work.
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Old 02-14-2006, 01:15 AM #3
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JJ has been working on getting the eblade trigger frame to work with the Wrath.
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Old 02-14-2006, 09:24 AM #4
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I think the e blades the only one
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Old 02-14-2006, 12:09 PM #5
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someone donate me a wrath and ill do a frame mod
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Old 02-14-2006, 02:34 PM #6
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yea, someone donate me a dm6, and ill take the frame off and use it on my wrath.
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Old 02-14-2006, 03:12 PM #7
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eblade would be a nice upgrade. hope they can figure out how to get it to work.
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Old 02-14-2006, 03:28 PM #8
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eblade would be a nice upgrade. hope they can figure out how to get it to work.
It wouldn't be to difficult if u were using say an Ego Version of the E2 frame. However u would need to replace some parts such as a ram and ram cap, but in theroy .....it could work. *Project Idea*
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that'd be pretty nice. But what the point of using a new frame? Grips or what?
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that'd be pretty nice. But what the point of using a new frame? Grips or what?

AN Actual 3 way noid, Fully EP , Ability to use all Ego boards.....and finally grips .
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Old 02-14-2006, 05:00 PM #11
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i'm working on something now where u can keep the stock noid, and it'll be fully ep, as JJ and The Inflicted are doing but i have a new idea, and no JJ,not the one i told you about, i have an even newer idea.
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Old 02-14-2006, 06:10 PM #12
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well let us know when your done so we can do it
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Sounds good Doughboy! Can't wait to see it.

Yes, an Eblade or Worrblade will bolt directly up to the Wrath. The problem is the stock noid is way too big. I found another small noid capable of outputting about 80 psi, but that may not be enough. Also, the frame requires some major hacking internally to fit the new noid and the board.
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Old 02-15-2006, 12:34 AM #14
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Yeah, I'm fiddling with an idea too and was hoping an Angel Frame or Matrix frame would fit... If I were to tap another hole for either of those frames while still keeping the rear one the same, anyone know how much further in front/in back from the normal front wrath screw hole I'd have to tap it (wow... that last sentence could be really misread haha).

Anyone also know the technical diagnostics of the wrath noid, like voltage/amps, force, airflow, etc?
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Old 02-15-2006, 05:17 PM #15
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Mayb a impulse frame........or you could custom mill your own frame using CAD or Mill 7.0 etc., btw the angel frame seems a bit to small quincy....
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I think the biggest problem is the Lpr pressure needed. Most Electronic solenoids can only take 100-125 psi max. Where the Wrath is stock form needs 140-150 psi. I think the best bet is to maybe use a Bko type solenoid, which operates like the wrath solenoid, as it is a operates a one way ram with spring return. I think the Wrath could be made to use a lower Lpr pressure if the ram and ram housing were modded.
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Thanks for those numbers Mark. I was wondering what the LPR output was. Looks like my "mini-noid" won't work unless I can find a way to seal the ram in the ramsleeve.
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i'm working on something now where u can keep the stock noid, and it'll be fully ep, as JJ and The Inflicted are doing but i have a new idea, and no JJ,not the one i told you about, i have an even newer idea.

Yes I to have an idea that will make the Wrath fully , EP involves the stock valve and ram.
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I am waiting for lucky to make my wrath fully EP.. to do it yourself would be nearly impossible, you need a new ram, 3-way valve, or noid i can't remember which, I think both... but you guys have fun! I don't have that kind of time...
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I am waiting for lucky to make my wrath fully EP.. to do it yourself would be nearly impossible, you need a new ram, 3-way valve, or noid i can't remember which, I think both... but you guys have fun! I don't have that kind of time...

Yes I heard of the Lucky projects . You would not need a new Valve , only a 3 way noid. That is one way to make a fully EP marker, ther are others. Not to mention , as with most things the lucky solution will most likley be an expensive way of doing things.
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