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Old 10-05-2002, 07:11 PM #1
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what is a level 10???

I am clearly not someone who knows much about mags, i have never even shot one. but when i do see mags on the internet and such i keep seeing this level 10 thing but no one ever says what it is. What is it!?!
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Old 10-05-2002, 08:05 PM #2
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it is a bolt kit that virtually eliminates chopping on mags. it will work on all mags.
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Old 10-05-2002, 09:26 PM #3
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Its a valve. It has a sort-of 2 speeds kinda thing. It starts slow and ends up going fast. If it finds that there is a ball half loaded, it will stop and the air will vent out, making chopping impossible.
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Mr. Mag, it is NOT a valve, it is a new lightweight bolt system.

A stepped stem inside the bolt, initiates a venting process whenever enough resistance is encountered, such as a partially fed ball. The bolt stops, re-sets itself, then just waits for you to pull the trigger again. If that bolt has no reason to stop, it will accelerate to it's full speed to fire a ball.

Aquafresh, the Level 10 will retro-fit onto any and all 'Mags ever made, which makes it unique among upgrades of any gun. Most marker makers will simply bring out a whole new model with a new mod done to it, since their mod won't work on their other models (check out all the different 'Cockers made).

If you buy a 'Mag, you can put on a Level10 in about 5-15 minutes. New 'Mags are already being set up with the LX, so when you buy one, LX is already there!

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i have one in a mag i'm trying to sell...mags just arent for me...but i'll be damned if that thing EVER chops a ball...

i can even stick my finger in it and shoot it as fast as i can and it wont hurt at all...

if you have a mag i reccomend it
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Old 10-06-2002, 10:45 AM #6
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i personally do not have a mag but two guys from school that im playing with on saturday have e mags and i think im gonna test it out to see what i think, how much does this level 10 doo hickey cost?
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So your telling me you can stick your finger in the side feed and shoot and wont loose a portion of your finger?
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Old 10-07-2002, 11:16 PM #8
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you can stick your TONGUE in
you can even do that...you can stick otehr more sensative body apendages in too, but i HIGHLY reccomend against it...

and yes, i can stick even my pinky finger in and it wont get shopped off or even hurt...
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What if you shortstroke, does it still not chop it..And what is the logic behind this, can someone explain it?


I've heard both ways, so i wanna make sure. (I dont' have my LX installed yet because i think im goning for an anno job soon.)
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short stroking doesnt affect it in any way...it still performs the same way
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So even if you short stroke it still wont chop the ball? Will it just recock?
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Old 10-09-2002, 12:15 AM #12
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A simple explaniation of it is, A lvl 10 is a 2 stage bolt, as you pull the trigger if a ball is sitting correctly in front of the bolt the level 10 will shoot as normal. If the lvl 10 hits an obstacle IE: ball that is half inserted into the chamber (the bolt hasnt at this stage reached second gear so to speak.) and is only traveling at around 4-6 feet per second & not enough to chop a ball, All it will do now pinch the ball without chopping it,vent the rest of the air behind the bolt then reset itself back to a normal position. If you pull the trigger again you will shoot that ball that you would have chopped if you didnt have a level 10.
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Old 10-09-2002, 12:19 AM #13
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I know how the LX works i just dont know how shortstroking fits in. When you shortstroke the sear isnt being tripped all the way so what happens inside the gun then? How does the LX eliminate shortstroking (if it even does.)

I'm just curious of what happens inside the gun when you shortstroke and what the LVL10 does when you shortstroke.
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It's a brilliant idea
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Old 10-09-2002, 11:25 AM #15
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level 10 even stops chopped balls due to shortstroking. It will just recock. It works under all conditions where previously you would have chopped a ball.

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the lvl10 doesnt stop shortstroking, all it does is eleminate what shortstroking does. you will still shortstroke, but the bolt wont allow you to chop a ball. and that is all the level to will do.
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Many, MANY paintballs without a chop with LX for me...
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That is a lot of paintballs...
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I bought a 68 mag about a month ago, and so far, when I go to shoot a burst, the 2nd ball almost always chops, especially during a game. I have only broken 1 ball outside of a game, testing the velocity. Will the lv. 10 fix this, or is it being caused by the next ball getting cracked?
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I bought a 68 mag about a month ago, and so far, when I go to shoot a burst, the 2nd ball almost always chops, especially during a game. I have only broken 1 ball outside of a game, testing the velocity. Will the lv. 10 fix this, or is it being caused by the next ball getting cracked?
hell yes...like has been posted above...the level 10 mod VARY seldomly of ever allows a ball to be chopped...it will definately stop that problem, although i've never heard of a mag chopping that bad before...damn...that sux
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