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Old 09-27-2002, 11:47 PM #1
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need help buyin an e-mag

I was considering buying an e-mag but I had a few questions. I was thinking about a c&c e-mag extrerme with level 10, so I was wondering were to buy one? Also does anyone know how these messure up to the addrenalin impulse (the other gun I was considering).
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Old 09-27-2002, 11:52 PM #2
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Cant get the c n c extreem's anymore I do believe...

Get a regular mag and pimp it out =D
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Old 09-28-2002, 02:15 AM #3
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guys from now on dont reply to this guy. he's an obvious troll. report him and i'll just delete the posts. Grand_

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Old 09-28-2002, 09:25 AM #4
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heres the most valuable info youll ever get in your whole paintball career........ dont get a mag!!!


get a tricked cocker , or some kind of intimidator or a matrix or a adrenalin impulse or strange impulse

those are the top guns out right now
That is really not needed, leave.
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sorry for speaking the truth
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Old 09-28-2002, 02:39 PM #6
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Do us all a favor, if you hate mag's stay out of the mag forum. We dont buy into your damn cocker hype...


At least mags dont break as soon as you touch them
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Old 09-28-2002, 06:15 PM #7
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Red face

now this is one of the oldest subjects in paintball
most players will own both a mag and a cocker
mag easyer to work on if some thing goes wrong all you need to do is replace a O ring
Cocker when you get it set don't mess with it (unless you know how to time one)lots of people say they do but they don't
Cocker has more range that is really the only thing a cocker has on a mag the neg is the timing of the cocker can cause a chop and sometimes has to be re timed but a good trigger job will help with that

THE ONLY REAL DIFFERENTS IS RANGE OF THE COCKER
AND A MAG IS ALOT EASYER TO WORK ON
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Old 09-29-2002, 12:48 AM #8
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Do us all a favor, if you hate mag's stay out of the mag forum. We dont buy into your damn cocker hype...


At least mags dont break as soon as you touch them
Hey don't let this *** make you talk about cockers.
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Old 09-29-2002, 12:56 PM #9
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speedyejl I agree with everything you said except if you chop with an ACE and level 10 you are SKILED not an idiot, I mean thats gotta be pretty hard to do.
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Old 09-29-2002, 01:26 PM #10
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Range= NO GUN HAS ANY RANGE OVER ANY OTHER GUN SHOOTING THE SAME FPS!!
Flatline barrel can. You shouldn't have made it big, it wouldn't have caught my eye.
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Old 09-29-2002, 05:00 PM #11
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actueilly scy tricked cockers suck a$$ just cuz u have one and its a piece of crap if u ask me dosnt mean that every one should make the mistake u made i think he should get the e mag cuz they are good uns . u dont know much about the sport scy u have only been here a year and think u know it all but u dont peace
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there is a range differents in open bolt and closed bolt guns
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Old 09-30-2002, 10:37 AM #13
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there is a range differents in open bolt and closed bolt guns
Yeah closed bolt guns don't shoot so far.

You have lots to learn if you think where the bolt is before the gun starts cycling has ANYTHING to do with range.

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Old 09-30-2002, 12:09 PM #14
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just for ribbing here,

Black Ice 72 said that the flatline goes farther, you are correct.
BUT speedyejl said that no GUN has any more range over others, the flatline is a barrel, not a gun.. so therefore black ice, you my friend are incorrect.
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Old 09-30-2002, 03:04 PM #15
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where the bolt is when a gun is shoot does have an effect on the range of a gun.
a closed bolt gets more range because more air gets to the ball then re cockes
open bolt bolt moves forward as air is discharged thus forcing the air to go just any where it can (most open bolt have more blow back than closed bolts do)

the bolt used can affect the range too not by much but it can
the bolt can put a spin on the ball too and caue the range to change
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Old 09-30-2002, 04:50 PM #16
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300 fps is 300 fps. It is measured after the ball comes out of the gun.

Classical physics....

Two identical objects traveling at the same velocity in parallel planes of motion will travel the same distance.

Whoever told you that a gun has more range because of operational charateristics is wrong.

I wish I could say search but the search function dosent work anymore. The Range Myth has long been disproven. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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here is another way your wrong rate of desent
in a perfect world all paintball would be the same but there not
but for this we will think it is
Q. when does a paintball start to slow down?
A. after the air hit the ball. duh
but where is the paintball in it's tarjectory
in an open bolt the ball starts to slow in the barrel where at moves because of the type barrel vents ect ya know

close bolt it also slows down in the barrel but farther down the barrel (more air hits the ball) it gets a better push on the paintball

in physics the rate of desent would be the same fo the 2 paintballs but if one starts to slow down before the other one will go further than the other
this goes in to the free flow stuff
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Old 09-30-2002, 06:29 PM #18
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Dear God what have I started?!?!?
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Cool

ya i know
it would only be like a inch maybe 2 but that would equal more range
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Old 10-01-2002, 05:57 AM #21
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If we ignore spin for the moment.

OK, please tell me that you are yet to start learning physics...

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here is another way your wrong rate of desent
in a perfect world all paintball would be the same but there not
but for this we will think it is
Q. when does a paintball start to slow down?
A. after the air hit the ball
The paintball starts to slow down when there is no longer a force giving it positive acceleration. Where it starts to slow down is absolutely completely and utterly irrelevant to range as compared to another gun, as long as when it leaves the barrel it is travelling at the same velocity as another ball leaving the barrel of a different gun.

As soon as it exits the barrel it is under negative acceleration due to wind resistance. This negative acceleration is the same for all balls exiting a gun and has nothing whatsoever to do with what type of gun fired them or how they were fired.

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but where is the paintball in it's tarjectory
in an open bolt the ball starts to slow in the barrel where at moves because of the type barrel vents ect ya know
Apart from the fact that's just conjecture on your behalf (and wrong since it is dependent on gun) It's also irrelevant.

All guns fire the gas burst and thus ball from a closed bolt situation. The bolt is forwards, closes the breech, and then releases the gas burst.

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close bolt it also slows down in the barrel but farther down the barrel (more air hits the ball) it gets a better push on the paintball
Rubbish. Did you know a cocker accelerates the ball harder than the automag or impulse? both of which are open bolt guns.

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in physics the rate of desent would be the same fo the 2 paintballs but if one starts to slow down before the other one will go further than the other
this goes in to the free flow stuff
Correct the rate of decent will be the same for both balls. BUT after they have left the barrel. And after they have been measured to have the same velocity. It doesn't matter if one starts to slow down as it exits the barrel and the other starts to slow down after 3 inches in a 16 inch barrel AS LONG AS they both are measured to have the same velocity at the same point out of the barrel.

If you are going to use physics to back up your arguement please use it correctly

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