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Old 01-13-2006, 12:22 AM #1
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d70s

hey guys im going to be purchasing a d70s in the near future (2 weeks or less hopefully) and am wondering wat lens to get. i like zoom shots so i was looking into getin a 70-200 or 300mm however i want the f-stop to be low.

what lens would u recomend i enjoy taking pictures that are fairly zoomed in and the pictures will mainly be for:
Landscape, Macro, and some people/portrait shots

also any other tips u would like to give me before getting this feel free to state
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Old 01-13-2006, 12:37 AM #2
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Get a Canon 20D

Actually, have you tried the Canon Rebel XT, or the Canon 20D. I think you should try all these before you chose. I would hold each one in your hand and see which you like best.
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Typically, longer zooms aren't used for landscapes, macros, or people portraits.

You may want to rethink your strategy here.
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Old 01-13-2006, 07:47 AM #4
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you'll want a wider lens for those types of shots, your longest should be about 85mm for portraits.


unless you're the creepy kind of person who takes photos of people from really far away for the wrong reasons...
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Get a Canon 20D

Actually, have you tried the Canon Rebel XT, or the Canon 20D. I think you should try all these before you chose. I would hold each one in your hand and see which you like best.
whats wrong with the nikon?
D70s is a nice camera
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Old 01-13-2006, 09:31 AM #6
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He may end up liking the way one of the other camera's feel better.
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if you are willing to spent like 800 on a lens the 80-200 2.8 is for you

or the 18-200 vr tho i belive that it is an f/4

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Ive seen photographers ue 70-200mm lens for portrait shots.. but yes those are the extreme side. If you just going to buy one lens no matter what body it is make sure you buy a nice walk around lens... since it will be on your camera most of the time. like 17-85mm or 28-75mm... you might want something wider since nikons and the lower Canons DSLR have a 1.6x crop.
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Have you ever held a d70 ? I Personally dont like the feeling of them and the layout. Have you looked at the Canon 350d? It might be a better choice. Also for Portrait and Landscape shots you want a something a bit smaller then 200mm.
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Canon people: get off his ***, he picked nikon. Get over it I recommend nikon though, I love my d70 to death. About to go shoot 5 hours of basketball, and I have absolutely no doubt that it can keep up for all 5 hours. The 80-200 is a damn fine lens - and I have one - but for a walkaround I'd recommend the 18-70 dx. It's a good lens too, even without the f2.8. a low f-stop 300mm lens is gonna cost you a damn fortune any way you go about it, so don't bother shopping unless you're way loaded.

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80-200 f2.8 (the 70-200 is just... weird, I think)
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Use your kit lense first. I didn't buy a new lense until I actually found something I want to do instead of buying a lense for something I *think* I want to do. The kit lense suprisingly enough is very nice. Don't think it isn't.
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Pretty much everyone will have use out of a good basic walk-around lense, no matter what type of photography he will be into primarily.

He could always just get the body and a better walk-around lense than whats provided in the kit. It would cost a bit more, but for a better quality rig. The kit lense has alot of room for improvement IMO.
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Old 01-13-2006, 07:22 PM #13
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i was thinking of getting the just the body and then a lens seperate cause i already have plenty of flash cards from previous cameras.

also i have held a nikon d70 and really like the feel HOWEVER i must admit ive never held a cannon (none of em) although i will probably hit up my local camera store in a couple days to feel the different ones in that range

as for f-stop can someone explain it to me in full detail because i know lower is better but am i correct when it is how wide or tight the appature can go?
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Lower is not better for all applications. A lense capable of lower f-stops is good because they can be used in less light, keep in mind this decreases DOF as well. Typically, these same lenses are built with better glass regardless and will end up costing mucho $$.

If you are shooting primarily landscapes, you probably won't be opening the lense up all that much anyway.
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Lower isn't always better. For portraits, where you generally want the background to be blurred, you want to go pretty low, like f/2.8 or lower. For landscapes,generally you want to use a small aperature (my lenses go up to f/32, even though I think that may be overkill) because you want to be able to capture the most amount of detail in the frame.

The wider apertures will allow the fastest shutter speeds also, the lower the number, the higher you can go with the shutter speed.
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Actually, details start getting lost at the higher f-stop as well. You need to find the best comprimise between detail dropoff and DOF while keeping the shot exposed correctly too.
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Wow, didn't know that. When looking at landcape photography books, I was actually wondering why the highest I saw was f/16. Thanks supr

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The diffraction(if thats what its called, im pretty sure it is) which is the loss of detail at higher apertures, depends on the camera at when it starts. smaller sensors have more diffraction, in a large format camera f64 results in no difffraction at all, but in p&s's it can start at f5.6
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The diffraction(if thats what its called, im pretty sure it is) which is the loss of detail at higher apertures, depends on the camera at when it starts. smaller sensors have more diffraction, in a large format camera f64 results in no difffraction at all, but in p&s's it can start at f5.6
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Not that it matters much to you'z guys, but in the E500, you'll want to stick lower than f11 or f14 depending on exposure if at all possible. I believe the sharpest images come from f5.6 or f.6.3 with the current 4/3rds sensors.

I would expect fairly similar to most dSLRs in the budget/mid-price ranges.
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Not that it matters much to you'z guys, but in the E500, you'll want to stick lower than f11 or f14 depending on exposure if at all possible. I believe the sharpest images come from f5.6 or f.6.3 with the current 4/3rds sensors.

I would expect fairly similar to most dSLRs in the budget/mid-price ranges.
Its not just the sensors, each lens will be different.
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Yep, each lens has a "sweet spot".
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