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Old 01-05-2006, 04:05 PM #1
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MEGATHREAD: Paintball Business FAQ & Knowledge Base

I'm going to merge all the generic requests for information about starting a field, store, and online store into this thread. I ask that the forum regulars not reply to any new threads and only reply to these requests in this thread. The intent is to make this a one-stop shop for the information we get asked for on a regular basis.

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Old 01-06-2006, 10:39 PM #2
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Old 01-08-2006, 12:03 AM #3
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Couple questions on a 17,000 sqf warehouse?

I'm starting a business plan and I have been in the paintball business and know enough to start a real business. I'm going to school for business management, but I've been running a small field for the past 3 years and and it's been getting larger and larger each year with just word of mouth spreading it.

My question is what size of compressor should I think about getting when moving into a warehouse that I'll rent between 15-20 thousand sq f? Also, how many bulk tanks (2? 4? 4500 tanks? 6000?). Also what learning curve is there (do I need to take classes)? I'll be having employees filling tanks so there won't be anything that could happen from an inexperienced person.

Also, would anyone consider buying used equipment or would you stay away from that?

I don't have any idea on the number of people per hour that I'd be filling for compressed air, but I would take a guess at a minimum of 10 per hour. I would like to switch my own rentals into having compressed air as well, but that can be done slowly or if someone can show me the cost savings and when they break even. Also would you go with the 47x3000's? And if so how many shots do they get?

I currently own 35 Tippmann Custom full rentals with new masks that are all fully paid, and I have the experience of the field. I'm not saying I have it all, but what other area should I look into that would be the most expensive expense besides insurance?

I've thought about the flooring and I'll be going with turf. I'd like to get one that can be picked up and moved into another location without any lose of product but also keeping the cost down. I've seen a "Pro Turf" or something but can't remember the website. It has a sponge effect when running and it's been used a few times at other fields. It comes in squares that lock into place. It's also removable in case you want to change the surface into something else. I was wondering if anyone else could give me a quote on the cost per sq f.

Anything else I need to look into? I know the netting and it having to be fire retardant. What about any laws in PA that would prohibit me from going indoors?


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Old 01-09-2006, 02:08 PM #4
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Hey, I go to a military academy in Mexico,Missouri and well me and a few other people are try to start a paintball team here and also open 2 fields on our campus and we have more then enough land so thats not a problem. Anyways since im mostly in charge and want this to happen by next year hopefully so what kids that come here will be able to enjoy paintball when away from home and not have to go crazy like I have the past 3 years; So im making this my legacy before I leave this year. Ok I was wondering if their is what do we exactly need to start and Xball, and Woodsball course going like where to get inflatable bunkers, how big should the xball field be, what should be the main safety rules and regulations we should enforce( we need to present this to the board of trustees which are all the big wigs so safety is gonna be the biggest concern), and any other things that we would need to have to start a field. Thankyou very much!
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Old 01-14-2006, 03:38 PM #5
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Hi, I am looking to open and indoor field. I was looking at turf when i realized that a NXL field is 125x180 and an NPPL field is 100x180. Do most of you guys with indoor fields have regulation size fields?
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Old 01-15-2006, 05:30 PM #6
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hey i need a buisenes plan

i was wondering if you had a buisness plan already written up
i need help starting a feild it would be indoor and merged in the same biuld ing as a bmx track

so i need a buisnes plan
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Old 01-15-2006, 09:57 PM #7
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AGDMan- Personally I would try to stay as far away from indoor fields as possible, due to most of them go under beacuse of the expensive cost of overhead. To answer your question, no most are not regulation, because a field that big, makes it alot bigger of a building. My local field is only 100x60 and although it is noticable, I dont think any of the locals have a problem. I say go with the NPPL, the 25 feet dosent matter that much. Although X-Ball is popular thier fields are very big as is and I dont think 25 feet will matter. If you want to play it safe go with 115. Hopfully that helps.

NCSUgotbanned- First off I doubt any paintball business is going to give up their business plan, thats like giving up you playbook to the other team. I can re-direct you in the right way though. Check out Bplans.com they have free samples. Just take the sample paste it in word and edit it from there. I am assuming that is what you want to do is just edit it. If not still you can use it as a guide. Good Luck
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Old 01-15-2006, 11:21 PM #8
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yeah thnx muppet
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Old 01-17-2006, 08:53 PM #9
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well, like the title says, after Summer I might be starting my own field. I've talked it over with my parents, and they said as long as I get the money to build the field, then they will help run the financial/business part of it. So, I just wanted to know about how much I'm lookin at to get a decent sized speedballl field with blow ups, a filling station, paint to sell, and rentals. Please help me out a lil bit, thanks
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Old 01-17-2006, 09:06 PM #10
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Depends on many things.

Set aside 15k for a starting up figure. Its a decent number and you dont "NEED" to have that much, but its something to shoot for.
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Old 01-17-2006, 09:19 PM #11
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For your paint and rentals go thru National. They are the cheapest...
If your looking to start a field I would say unless you want to blow your college fund get a job now and pay for it thru that. Another option is to go with a Hay field. I know it sounds like the worst idea other but if you want to cut the cost of the field to a little under $300 that is the way to go. Another option is Hyper-Ball. You dont see em around too much anymore, so I think players will enjoy trying somthing new/ getting to play a field that is kind of ancient. Thats good that your parents are on board, you are most likely need to have them do most of the things like aquire a Tax ID, getting your Dealer License. My parents helped me with alot of my stuff, so make sure you dont get mad or do somthing to make them stop. I know without mine my PbDamage.com would have never got off the ground. Even though it is still getting products added at this time and is not yet open, I owe it all to my parents for helping me.

I hope this helps give you an idea of what it is like to be a young entrepreneur in the world of paintball. Its tough but its worth it.
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Old 01-18-2006, 06:57 PM #12
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Thanks man, I was thinkin more along the lines of just laying some dirt flat on a field and starting from there. I figure it won't be very slippery, and definately will not be very expensive. They say if this summer I make enough money to build the field, it's a go. Not to mention for the first year or two it's gonna be a private team field, just wanna get a dealer's license to help some of the fees. Not to mention getting it cheap and selling it to the team can make profit so we can open up to the public
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Old 01-18-2006, 07:35 PM #13
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Howdy, Well i wanted to clear out a spot in some woods and make some bunkers myself out of wood. Then i want to get somewhat like an 80 cubic foot co2 tank and we'll all play mech spyders for the day as sort of a fun break from the 20 bps ropes lol. How much would it cost for stuff like wood and the huge co2 tank? And how much is it to fill a big tank like that? And any reccomendations on paint for the woods? Ive never really played in the woods except like once, whats a good brand thatll show up easy, cheap, and relatively thin shelled?
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Old 01-18-2006, 07:48 PM #14
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X-Ball Bronze. Breaks on target, and very cheap.
www.paintball-discounters.com allows you to apply for wholesale accounts. I am sure if you tell them what you are useing it for they might give you a discount on buying bulk paint.
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Old 01-22-2006, 08:09 PM #15
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quick speed / hyperball question

hey im starting ajust afeild i have a ton of clear feilds so im wondering i dont have a ton of money i have like under a 1000 dollers and what is cheaper i would only have like one feild just for my team to practice but what is cheaper air bunkers hyperball or just making thmw outta wood like a sheet of ply wood
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get the extreme rage bunker sets they are like 300 dollars for a set of 5 bunkers so 10 for 600 and they are real airball bunker you can buy them about anyways including paintballgear.com and punisherpb.com
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Old 01-23-2006, 03:07 PM #17
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I want to start a field, but how much money....

I want to start my own field. If any one remembers the store AMES. They went out of bussiness a wile ago and there are alot of buildings that are no longer in use. AMES was like a target or a wallmart. My parents really like the idea of me and my friends starting a field. They said they would gladly rent the store. It is 60,000 sq ft, which I think is pretty big. I know it is going to cost alot of money to get started. We are going to need turf which I saw going for $2.50 for one square foot. We will need co2, nitro fill stations also. We wont need to have a great store. We will need refs also, I know alot of kids that enjoy paintball and I can get them to ref. There would be alot of people coming to play. Most of the other fields in CT are very expensive. They charge $100 bucks a case. I would only charge $55 for Draxxus. I was just wondering if any one else has converted a store into a field to get an overall of how much it would cost.
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it would cost a crap load of money. and the paint will have to be more then 55 bucks. thats were u will b getting most of your money from.
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I want to start my own field. If any one remembers the store AMES. They went out of bussiness a wile ago and there are alot of buildings that are no longer in use. AMES was like a target or a wallmart. My parents really like the idea of me and my friends starting a field. They said they would gladly rent the store. It is 60,000 sq ft, which I think is pretty big. I know it is going to cost alot of money to get started. We are going to need turf which I saw going for $2.50 for one square foot. We will need co2, nitro fill stations also. We wont need to have a great store. We will need refs also, I know alot of kids that enjoy paintball and I can get them to ref. There would be alot of people coming to play. Most of the other fields in CT are very expensive. They charge $100 bucks a case. I would only charge $55 for Draxxus. I was just wondering if any one else has converted a store into a field to get an overall of how much it would cost.
Contact this man for all the info you need, hes a sales rep. at a wholesale disributor and has been working in the paintball retail/stores/fields & playing world for around ten years so he knows a few tips and tricks about field work and such. Plus the fact that hes a sales rep and can help you set up a package for you and can get you the info you need helps quite a bit.

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60,000 sq. feet of building can not be cheap no matter were you live so I take it your parents have lots of money. Make sure you and you parents work out a busniess plan before you invest your hard earn capital in the busniess it looks great from a players point of view but there is alot more involved then just buying paintballs!
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Old 01-23-2006, 09:30 PM #21
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Good idea. Thought ur in CT, im in MASS, so id go.
Just make it nice prices, and good fields. Try to have a booth or something in case somethings lost or stolen, make people feel secure. But id say go for it.


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