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Old 07-31-2006, 11:21 PM #274
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No problem mang. I love doing this stuff. Unfortunately there are some things I *cannot* release to you guys.

I wish there were other gifted and like minded people like me in the ICD community.
What is this thing about Borked Panitball Solutions? Does it involve that?
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Old 08-01-2006, 05:02 AM #275
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sorry were all dumb
Nah, your not dumb... you just have balogne in your slacks.

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What is this thing about Borked Panitball Solutions? Does it involve that?
Somewhat. Borked Paintball Solutions is just holding cell for all the crazy stuff that is in my head. I can use it as an outlet for any products or CAD work I produce.

The last few months I have been designing a marker that is a cross between a Bushy and a Defiant II. It has some nifty secrets to it though (no tray for example). I need to get some capital so I can buy a few extra things to get a really good finalized design. Not sure what I will do with the design though. I may ask my parents to help finance a prototype or two (but I am really reluctant to ask for thier help).
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Old 08-01-2006, 06:26 AM #276
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you just have balogne in your slacks.
hahahahaha?????............sorry i dont get it, uh you got peanut butter in your hair??? is that funny?
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Old 08-01-2006, 10:51 AM #277
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It's a Canadian thing.

Spitle: You still need to get financed by your parents? WTF...lol. Your like 32 or something aren't you? Or am I wrong.
I don't think you fully understand how much money is involved in making your own paintball gun.

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Old 08-01-2006, 11:29 AM #278
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I don't think you fully understand how much money is involved in making your own paintball gun.
If your not outsourcing it to China, I'd understand.
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Old 08-01-2006, 03:45 PM #279
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its obvious hes not.......geez
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Old 08-01-2006, 05:52 PM #280
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Oh, I thought everyone did that now-a-days.

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Old 08-01-2006, 05:56 PM #281
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not with prototyping, gotta make sure it works before you make a thousand in china
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Old 08-01-2006, 06:10 PM #282
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not with prototyping, gotta make sure it works before you make a thousand in china
Might wanna read up on what patents ICD has pulled. Incorperating patents that aren't yours into a mass production with or without intent to sell is a patent violation. yay! But, ya know those Canadians.

(I think that I will have to include the word Canadian whenever I mention Spitle...! )
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Old 08-01-2006, 09:36 PM #283
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yes but i am aswering your comment about china production and prototypeing......not talking about patent infringements and it is not the topic

the topic is the money needed to start prototypeing or production and that your comment being him being finaced by his parents is either ignorant or rude
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Old 08-01-2006, 10:20 PM #284
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yes but i am aswering your comment about china production and prototypeing......not talking about patent infringements and it is not the topic

the topic is the money needed to start prototypeing or production and that your comment being him being finaced by his parents is either ignorant or rude
Oh sorry Spilte, it I very ignorant, I admit, once I re-read it.
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Old 08-02-2006, 11:21 PM #285
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Yes the cost is high. I would guess that it would be in the range of $1000-1100 without your own machines.

I'm really not worried about patent infringement. If it's just a prototype then nothing gained and nothing lost right? I am thinking there are ways around the patent issue anyways (selling parts seperately that can be made into a marker, a "kit" if you will).

Either way, I just want something that I can show as proof positive of a concept.
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Old 08-02-2006, 11:26 PM #286
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Hey, best case, that "proof postitve of a concept" can go a long way. Proving such concept makes selling said concept much easier.

I know what marker you refer from ICDO, and wish you luck. The wiring harness by itself will cost you big time...
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Old 08-03-2006, 01:03 AM #287
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Actually I have changed it up quite a bit, going to see if I can make it out of a merlin extrusion.
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Old 08-21-2006, 10:13 PM #288
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This might of been posted, but i dont feel like looking through all of the pages but what is a CAD drawing, and were do you get the program?
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Old 08-23-2006, 07:35 PM #289
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CAD - Computer Aided Drafting
CAM - Computer Aided Machining
CAE - Computer Aided Engineering

The rendered images earlier in this thread are from a CAD package. They are just industry design software like AutoCAD, Inventor, SolidWorks, etc. The programs that I know and use in industry are AutoCAD, Architectural Desktop, Cheif Architect, Inventor, SolidEdge, SolidWorks, Unigraphics, ProE, Ideas, SurfCAM, MasterCAM, and Catia. Personally I like using a combination of AutoCAD and SolidWorks the best.

You can buy them from local distributers for the companies like GoEngineer or the CAD Store. Industrial prices~$2,500. to $15,000. Student prices~$200. to $500. Or you can aquire a "less-than-legal" copy by downloading from shared websites but you are on your own with that one.

I know you can download some freeware design software that can be good for just conceptual stuff but not as good for building off of. You could probably do a quick search for them.
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Old 08-23-2006, 07:40 PM #290
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By the way, Spitlebug.... I am nearly done modeling up my Spyder Xtra and was wondering if you would be willing to trade your CAD model for your stock gun so I can do some analysis. I have drawn up everything in SW06 and been measuring everything with Starrett calipers and mics. I will post a pic as soon as it is finished (prob 3-4 days).
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Old 08-23-2006, 08:28 PM #291
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I might be interested in exchanging files. I am using Solidworks 2006, which can read older files, but older versions will not be able to open my files. I can however, export them to a different format.

PM me your email addy or MSN addy and I'll add you. I'd like to get some pics of your spyder.
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Old 08-25-2006, 07:07 AM #292
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Have you guys ever used sketch up, do you like it?
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Old 08-27-2006, 02:49 AM #293
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I tried doing the tutorials for sketchup...

It was not-so-hot. I imagine that it would be a good program for someone that has no CAD experience. Unfortunately I am stuck in my ways...
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Old 08-28-2006, 01:52 PM #294
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Here it goes:
This is my current project (older model Spyder Xtra) that I am completely redesigning to be a sniper rifle. With the current setup (red dot sight, 21" rifled barrel, remote, shocktech delrin bolt, spring kit) I can hold a consistent 3" pattern at 35 yards. I am hoping to increase that by at least 50%.

Testing Performed:
-Main & valve spring force factors
-Friction of balls through barrels
-Friction of bolt/hammer through gun body
-Decible rating for barrel output-yet to be preformed (for silencer comparison)

Parts I'm adding:
-Low & high pressure gages
-Stabilizer (looking for suggestions on make/model)
?Additional Regulator

Parts I'm reengineering/building:
-Valve
-Valve Pin
-Hammer
-Low Pressure Chamber
-Vertical Adapter
?Bolt
-Silencer (Already half way machined, curious if it will even work)

I am looking for suggestions, comments, etc. on where to go from here. What do you think?

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