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Old 07-17-2005, 08:34 PM #1
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Exclamation Advantage PB/virtue gets banned from PbNation. Please Read.

PbNation Members and Guests,

We have recently been made aware of a number of potentially false and misleading posts created on PbNation regarding the products produced and sold by advantage pb/virtue The posts in question were all generated from user accounts known to be registered by the owners and associates of advantage pb/virtue.

These related accounts created posts which included positive feedback and product information, as well as negative comments regarding competing products. These posts are not from independent third parties but are posts created by accounts registered to the owners and associates of advantage pb/virtue the supplier of the product being discussed in the threads. All of the messages created were intended to benefit advantage pb/virtue and its products and in some cases posts were created to leave negative impressions about competing products.

The scale of the corporate spam and feedback fraud discovered was unprecedented in the history of PbNation. It involved multiple accounts with a variety of aliases pretending to order or pre-order products, review products and leave comments regarding “great customer service.” Fortunately this scam was uncovered by the PbNation staff and within hours of its discovery all advantage pb/virtue accounts were permanently banned.

PbNation LLC considers such posting to be corporate spam and feedback fraud and extremely harmful to the paintball and PbNation community. These kinds of activities will not be tolerated on PbNation.

Any vendor or individual participating in this type of misleading posting behavior will be immediately banned, have their company web site added to the swear filter, be prohibited from advertising and/or selling their products on PbNation.

It’s unfortunate that any vendor would use these unethical and dishonest tactics to promote their products. PbNation will continue to do what we can to provide a level playing field for the paintball community to engage in fair and honest discussions regarding all aspects of paintball.

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Old 07-17-2005, 09:30 PM #2
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I'm guessing their banner won't be on the top of the page anymore.
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Old 07-17-2005, 09:32 PM #3
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Wow, I never liked AdvantagePB they always seemed shady and i wasn't impressed with their customer service.

for this bull**** tactic.
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Old 07-17-2005, 09:32 PM #4
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I'm guessing their banner won't be on the top of the page anymore.
Yup, seems like everyone involved is gonna lose in some way.
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Old 07-17-2005, 09:32 PM #5
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yay, i have always disliked them ever since they copied tag sportz's break out mode.
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Old 07-17-2005, 09:32 PM #6
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Yet another reason to buy from Tadao...
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Old 07-17-2005, 09:33 PM #7
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Possible legal action? Isn't it against the law to mislead and lie to potential customers?
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Old 07-17-2005, 09:33 PM #8
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Never was a fan of their products.
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Old 07-17-2005, 09:34 PM #9
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I've known about this forever, I just thought PBN didn't care cause it was a sponsor.
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Old 07-17-2005, 09:35 PM #10
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Yup, seems like everyone involved is gonna lose in some way.
Awesome, their banner was ugly. I'm glad I will see the PB Warehouse one more often
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Old 07-17-2005, 09:35 PM #11
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Nice work PBN sleuths.
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Old 07-17-2005, 09:36 PM #12
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Old 07-17-2005, 09:40 PM #13
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I was going to try and talk to you on AIM, but you aren't on. Does this mean that users can't sell AdvantagePB Products?
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Old 07-17-2005, 09:41 PM #14
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I've known about this forever, I just thought PBN didn't care cause it was a sponsor.
There are some things more important than money, integrity is one. PBN would never allow someone to cheat its members. The staff is just as angry as anyone else.
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it's funny how everyone turns against AdvantagePB's products after they get banned.

i don't support what they did and am shocked that this was going on, knowing many of them.

i understand expressing opinions on what they did, but lets not bad mouth their products though, ok? Advantage sells great products, even though they fell to the dark side of marketing.

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Old 07-17-2005, 09:48 PM #16
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Very impressive of the 'nation. This decision is costing the owners nearly a grand a month. Integrity can be expensive.

Good call folks. Banned from the NPPL. Now banned from PBnation... although behavior like this is always surprising, it is to be expected from a company that started out producing cheater chips and advirtised primarily through email spam.
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Old 07-17-2005, 09:56 PM #17
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Good job PBN staff. You guys care more about us than money . The way it should be. I am now going to become a supporting member. Good job.
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Old 07-17-2005, 09:58 PM #18
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Never seen is comming, I guess now the window of oppertunity for another big named company to take the advertising spot is prominent.

Curious to see who steps up to the plate.
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Old 07-17-2005, 10:03 PM #20
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I still haven't received my Virtue board in the mail. Time to cancel my order, eh? Oh well, not much is lost. We still have Will and Tadao. Time to order M5.
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Old 07-17-2005, 10:05 PM #21
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man...more and more of this ****. I'm tired of it, its the same with Smart Parts. I'll buy their **** but hate the company. Its to good to pass up man. Fudgkin politics are gay!
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