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Old 06-03-2003, 11:54 PM #43
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IT would fix itself the next time you pulled the trigger.
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Old 06-04-2003, 07:24 AM #44
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Yah true enough, lol. Yah I did not think about that, lol. But still my point, the push in the fist place....was more then enough to crush a paintball.
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Old 06-04-2003, 09:56 AM #45
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Probably true, only cockers that have been tuned correctly will do it. It can be done almost stock though... I think my buddy had different springs ($10), and that was it.
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I do not believe it's a spring exerting pressure on the ball, rather it's air from the Pneumatics. The spring just fires the air to shoot the ball, it does not play a role in the fcocking, the Front pneumatics do that job.
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Old 06-04-2003, 10:16 PM #47
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THe front pneumatics running pressure closes the bolt on the ball, and it also recocks the gun (it uses the same psi both ways). The thing that decides how high the pressure needs to be is the weight of the hammer spring that the pneumatics have to push against to recock the gun. So if you replace the spring with a lighter one, you can turn the pneumatics pressure down (because recocking is now easier and requires less pressure) and it'll pinch balls, even with the stock autococker pneumatics.

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i dont get it...
the Epic does not work like an autococker.
It has a flat plate that seals the breech with 3 pounds of pressure.

humm... back to topic please.
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LOL yah I know what you mean......

Hey man can't wait for those e-epics, Jim said the harware(prototypes) is basically done, now they just have repackage it into the gun.
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lots of guns can be chopless.
my friends imp operates at 60psi lpr and bounces off balls.
my bushy was goin full auto today and bouncing instead of chopping.
my angel will be set like that soon too.
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your angel should NEED to be set like that if you know how to use SENSEI
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Loads of markers can be set to be chopless. But do they come that way stock and how much do they cost?
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WOW i read like the first 5 flames on the epic i almost pooped my panties laughing at how dumb people can be, quite frankly, some people just need to be clubbed in the knees.
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I only read the first page of this thread and id read on accept im throwing up all over the place because flamers make me sick.
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back to the original topic... epics are on sale again at www.icepaintball.com for 420 with barrel and 395 w/o.
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Air is expensive right?

Yes it really cost 700$ to operate on nothing more than air i hope the these people fill good about stealing peoples money, but the design is innovative nonetheless.
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Read the post right above yours... theyre not 700$
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Re: Air is expensive right?

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Yes it really cost 700$ to operate on nothing more than air i hope the these people fill good about stealing peoples money, but the design is innovative nonetheless.
To operate on nothing more than air...what the hell are you talking about? All the bolt in a normal paintball gun does is move a ball into the barrel and direct some air, and all this gun does is skip the bolt. Do yourself a favor and stop posting.
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it takes 6psi to break a paintball
nope, there is a BIG difference between pounds of force and pounds per square inch (PSI)

if the trapdoor has 3 lbs of force, it is not equal too 3psi, you cannot compare it to an impy (or other e-pneumatic) that has an LPR running at 60psi and not chopping either.

and yes, with proper springs and lpr adjustments a cocker will not chop at all.

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It's king of odd. I've seen trix's, angels, viking....bolt bounce off balls alot. They are set up quite nice, however, all of those HAVE chopped eventually. Be it bad paint or just a pressure spike at the wrong time, but they have. WE can make a bolt operated gun very effective, however a bolt operated gun is not the most effective means to use in a paintball gun. It's just whats out there now.
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Just so you know

Epics kick some ***. They will NEVER chop, but if you have bad balls you will have breaks in a barrel.

They have no kick whatsoever.

Quit bashing it, it kicks your guns ***. (besides speed)
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Oh gosh...not again...
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oooook, whats with comparing it to cockers? for 600 i would pick up a nice electro, case closed, ROF really matters in MOST tournie situations, wich is what i play
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