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Old 01-04-2003, 08:43 PM #22
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Old 02-02-2003, 01:53 PM #23
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hey anyone interested pbgear.com now sells epics
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Old 02-02-2003, 09:42 PM #24
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why would you get them for 700 at pbgear when you can get them for 450 directly from ICE?
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Old 02-02-2003, 09:44 PM #25
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i dunno, maybe u want to spend money? i would pay 450 for an epic
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Old 02-26-2003, 03:50 PM #26
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dont make no damn sense to me.. ill stick with my angel
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Old 03-19-2003, 08:46 PM #27
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why would you get them for 700 at pbgear when you can get them for 450 directly from ICE?
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Epics are cool, but nothing more than that. I wouldn't give up my Viking for one.
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Old 03-21-2003, 08:28 PM #28
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i have never "chop" a ball in my Epic..
barreel breaks due to poor match yes.
but no "chop"
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Old 03-23-2003, 04:21 PM #29
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slow hoppers are the origin of the chop, but what physically chops the balls are the bolts, the trap door system on the epic has about 3psi, so no it cannot chop, it will pinch, hold the door open, and then drop for the next shot. It's a fairly unconventional and innovative way of shooting a ball, so yeah I think it's worth it. I'd rather have bunch of different systems to choose from than have 12 types of spyder clones running around. Sure blowbacks work, and some work great, but just not my cup of tea

ps: it takes 6psi to break a paintball

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Old 03-23-2003, 04:34 PM #30
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my cocker bolt stops on paintballs and its usin alot more then 6 psi
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Old 03-23-2003, 08:53 PM #31
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well then you're using thicker-paint

quote taken from www.icepaintball.com

Will the trap door cut or trap balls?

No, the trap door physically can't cut a paintball. The trap door moves forward with less than three pounds of force. It takes six or more pounds of force to break or chop a paintball.

---end quote---

remember that it's 3psi at the trap door, however if you only pinch the paint a little in any gun, it'll produce a KAK sound and will not chop.
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Old 03-23-2003, 09:12 PM #32
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nope i was usin some paint that if you dropped it, it would break without bouncing
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Old 03-23-2003, 09:19 PM #33
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then I stand corrected, do you know the name of the paint? Most conventional paints are supposed to handle 7 drops before breaking from waist-height I thought
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Old 04-29-2003, 06:56 PM #34
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I do not believe him, I have tried sticking a pencil down the breach of my cocker, guess what happend? It broke the pencil. and it does chop. It my autochoper, lol

My cocker runs on 300 psi witch is not super low, but it's 150 psi below stock.
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Old 04-29-2003, 08:32 PM #35
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im sorry u dont believe me, .. that really isnt my problem.. my autococker is amazing.. it never chops believe it or not..
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Old 04-29-2003, 08:40 PM #36
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but think about it, my impulse runs on 150psi at the bolt, which is SUPER low? (I've seen lower but we ain't talking about that, just relative to other markers) and it chops when outshoot my rico, which doesn't usually happen cause I can't shoot that fast, however, if you think about it, it's as if I slowly stood on it over the span of an inch, since I weight about 150psi, so of course it'll break. Now does your cocker run at a lower than 150 psi? Cause that'd be amazing... Is it freeflow? I've seen this guy at my field with an epic, and he tried chopping with it, and then I tried it, by placing the marker at an angle so that it feeds REAL slow... but the trap door caught it, and pushed it back up, until it caught up then it let it back down, then fired, no chops... Now I myself don't own an epic, nor do I think I'll ever get to own one (my impulse gets jealous real quick) but I think it's pretty amazing how it doesn't chop.

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Old 04-29-2003, 09:05 PM #37
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no its a old 99 autococker with ans front kit and a reworked valve, it runs at 450 into the gun and it taps on balls. u can just hammer on it.. and all it will do is keep the block back, no chopping nothing
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Old 04-30-2003, 03:38 AM #38
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Somehow I don't believe that, but hey if it is rue then that's really cool. If it isn't then well, as the saying goes "ignorance is bliss".
Often many paintballers that say crap on the forums are in a state of bliss. lol.
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Old 05-03-2003, 08:28 PM #39
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no chopping would be nice even tho i dont chop with vision. I would take a stock cocker over this tho i think they are pretty cool
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Old 05-13-2003, 01:36 AM #40
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Wow, you guys disappoint me. NONE of you have heard about cockers stopping on balls? It definately exists. My buddy has a 99 cocker that does so. It's all about the LPR and the springs.
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Old 06-03-2003, 07:29 PM #41
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if u guys dont like the guns why are u lurking in its forum?

Dont go into to forums u know nothing about and start bashhing the gun.
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Old 06-03-2003, 09:25 PM #42
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I just stuck my finger in my next door neighbors 2003 cocker(do not say a word!). The bolt stoped on my finder, but then it just staid there, keeping pressure on my finder till I took it out. If a ball ever did get caught in there it would jam......As with my rainmaker it just bounces off....and with the Epic the trap door just bounces off the ball. But the Cocker is closed bolt, so it can not just bounce off and go into the open bolt position.
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