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Old 06-14-2002, 11:16 AM #22
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but i still like matrix cuz i can rip on it (19-20 bps)
once again, BULL****. you cant fire 19-20bps noone can. unless your talking about full auto or something, but hell i can do that too! angels can shoot 20bps but tell me when any gun will ever get that high. so dont even lie saying you can shoot 19-20bps
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Old 06-14-2002, 11:40 AM #23
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Well by picky I meant you need pretty good paint or you'll get a lot of breaks. Then again my idea of a lot of breaks might be different than most peoples. I just find if your shell is brittle....you'll have more problems in the angel.
My comment about dwell time had nothing to do with hassle or no hassle....I was talking about increasing your air efficiency on the angel that way. It's actually very easy to change the dwell on an angel. If you adjust it lower though......the gun is even tougher on paint.
With my matrix.....I don't even carry a squeegie anymore.
You're right about the 19-20bps thing though. The highest I ever saw was a guy on an LCD who shot 16. Which makes me wonder about the reliability of the calculations made by the LCD since it was supposedly maxed out at 12 and he only fired about 5 shots.
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Fatty claims he can do over 17 bps without much trouble by walking the trigger with three fingers and many people back him up on that. I know I can VERY easily get over 13 bps with a stock bolt. I think I may even be able to max out my stock board, so I need to see if I can do over 16.7 bps (the max of the stock board) or not once I get a new bolt kit...

People say that almost no one can do over 11-12 bps. Well, I know atleast 10 people who can, including myself.

Still, shooting THAT fast is just a waste of paint. You won't notice much difference between 13-14 bps and 19 bps besides the sound.
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i can hit 13 easy also. the fastest ive seen someone hit was 15.


with a soft shell, extremely brittle you will have probs with the angel just cause the fast its not very LP, but that can be changed. i too never bring a squigee anymore with my angel. i havent chopped yet and usually am shooting 11-12 bps with just a revy & xboard. ive put about 8 cases through my angel so far.
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actually, Canada is on top

which makes the USA our *****
Or it can be seen as you guys are riding us......which makes you OUR b|tch. Either way you guys are under our thumb.

I personally love the way the CLSS IR3 looks.......its so sleek and simple.
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You guys comparing your max rof's...just go out on the field and play. Then you'll realize it only takes ONE shot with the matrix to drop a dude, not 13/second.
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im not comparing speed. he said he could do 19-20 i said bull****. and it will only take 1 shot with an angel. your arguments prove nothing.
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explosive, it seems like you're trying to turn this into an Angel vs. Matrix forum.

There's already one in the WDP forum as we speak.
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no im not. im pointing out your flaws in choice of words. makes it fun
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Explosive, I wasn't talking to you when I said stop comparing. As a matter of fact, I almost posted the exact same thing you did until I saw your post.

People in general, what's an extra 3 bps? I'll tell you what, that means that you'll be busting out pods that much faster. God, some people...
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well Lasoya is gay, what can u expect?
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Hehe penis, i wonder what he was thinking about when he came up with that...


fyi
Last time i checked canada was still part of america

yes, technically canada is in America. but who calls themselvs americans? do canadians? or mexicans? or the CItizens of the United States of America. the term "American made" means, made in the United States of America. just like how Citizens of the United States of America call themselvs "Americans" not "Citizens of the United States of America."

so technically, when you say that Canada is part of america, you are right, but something being "made in america" or "american made" generally is refered to something made within the United States of America.
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by the way... I shoot a matrix, but am switching to an angel. why? politics. (sponsorship requires it). and I love my matrix. However, angels do shoot nice. dont dis either markers. both are awesome.
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angels still chop

You wanna why matrix is the best.Put a ball half way in the breach and hold it there.Fire the gun and the bolt will stop on the ball, now do the same to an angel and it cuts the ball in half.Now i dont know about you but a gun that will not cut the ball is the ****.The only gun that i know of that also wont do this is a cocker so all you angel guys out there keep your ball hackers
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Re: angels still chop

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You wanna why matrix is the best.Put a ball half way in the breach and hold it there.Fire the gun and the bolt will stop on the ball, now do the same to an angel and it cuts the ball in half.Now i dont know about you but a gun that will not cut the ball is the ****.The only gun that i know of that also wont do this is a cocker so all you angel guys out there keep your ball hackers
funny how you should say that, me and my friends took our guns out last thursday and all lined up and did tests. my angel didnt chop outta the 5 balls we put half way in the breech. they did the same with their cockers and none of them chopped.
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ball chopping

Well you must have the magic angel or some really hard paint.Because i owned an angel and i put balls halfway in the breach and they got cut in half every time.That is why i switched to a matrix.You can run, jump and slide with no fear of cutting balls in your gun.btw what kind of paint do you use, hellfire is what i test my guns with.
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funny how you should say that, me and my friends took our guns out last thursday and all lined up and did tests. my angel didnt chop outta the 5 balls we put half way in the breech. they did the same with their cockers and none of them chopped.
Add one to the ignorant Angel owner list... How many is that now? Hmm.... somewhere around 10,000
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well we tested it with anarchy and rps premium. thats what i play with.
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well we tested it with anarchy and rps premium. thats what i play with.
RPS Premium...... mmmm your daily intake of iron.
RPS has some really hard *** shells FYI


Also, i've seen some one hit 20bps over a chrony, out shot the halo.

He's one of the guys that tests most of Aardvark's prototype products.
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Re: Re: angels still chop

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funny how you should say that, me and my friends took our guns out last thursday and all lined up and did tests. my angel didnt chop outta the 5 balls we put half way in the breech. they did the same with their cockers and none of them chopped.
Ok, now you are just making stuff up. Angels wont stop on any good paint. Stick your finger in the feedtube and pull the trigger.......feel that pain? Stick your finger in the Matrix and you barely feel a pinch.

The Angel at 90 psi has too much speed and too much mass (hammer) to stop on paint.....unless its really hard.


Im in the process of doing some LP Angel things. Ill let you know how they work out.
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damn mich and mstrkey i havent talked to you guys since back in the day of Pigchat


as well as you other poeple i forget


how the heII you been?
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