[Nashorn]

Originally Posted by loougle

With the price of FS rounds I don't see the point. If you want FS rounds you should be rocking the SAR12.

Taking the DAM as an example, you don't have to go all FS. You have the option to go hopper fed or mag fed in an instant. You can spray and pray with the loader or hang back and snipe with the FS rounds from the magazine - keeping you from blowin' a whole paycheck on FS rounds. It's wonderful flexibility. With the Dfender, you don't have that tactical flexibility yet you pay about the same price. I'm not doggin' the Dfender by any stretch of the imagination. I'm sure this bad boy is gonna fly off the shelves. I'm just sayin' that the price point is a bit off when you have a more tactically flexible choice out there for about the same price.

[Screaming4vengence]

Originally Posted by Gadget

It won't be PURE magnesium (otherwise playing in the rain would be.....erm, interesting) It'll be a magnesium/aluminium alloy - same as they use for laptops.

I think that's phosperous that reacts with water although magnesium does burn very hot and bright red.

[soccerguy243]

Originally Posted by Gadget

It won't be PURE magnesium (otherwise playing in the rain would be.....erm, interesting) It'll be a magnesium/aluminium alloy - same as they use for laptops.

what you're thinking of is alkali (lithium, potassium, etc) and water reactions. If you look at the periodic table of elements I believe its the left most column of elements that react violently with water. All the alkali metals react vigorously or explosively with cold water, producing an aqueous solution of the strongly basic alkali metal hydroxide and releasing hydrogen gas. I think these are the metals used on TV (Mythbusters, etc) for those high reactive explosions with water.

Alkaline metals apparently also react with water: All the alkaline earth metals except beryllium also react with water to form strongly alkaline hydroxides and thus should be handled with great care.. However, All the metals except beryllium form oxides in air at room temperature which dulls the surface of the metal. So not explosive?

Originally Posted by Screaming4vengence

I think that's phosperous that reacts with water although magnesium does burn very hot and bright red.

Phosphorous is a nonmetal and is on the right side of the table. I don't think its reactive with water like the alkali metals are.

[loougle]

Originally Posted by Nashorn

Taking the DAM as an example, you don't have to go all FS. You have the option to go hopper fed or mag fed in an instant. You can spray and pray with the loader or hang back and snipe with the FS rounds from the magazine - keeping you from blowin' a whole paycheck on FS rounds. It's wonderful flexibility. With the Dfender, you don't have that tactical flexibility yet you pay about the same price. I'm not doggin' the Dfender by any stretch of the imagination. I'm sure this bad boy is gonna fly off the shelves. I'm just sayin' that the price point is a bit off when you have a more tactically flexible choice out there for about the same price.

I agree with that, options are always good. At my local fields no one really uses the FS, fields are a bit small for the price premium. If I head out to a big game I have a feeling i'll be outsniped even with FS so for me personally it doesn't really matter. But I agree on the features and/or lack thereof, I can't really justify pulling the trigger on it for 1300, if I can get it used 800-1k, I'm so in. Used market here I come (as well as everyone else)

[zz rai]

Will the D'Fender qualify for Mag Fed only games?

[jacksonwill]

i thought it was cool, and was going to be like the tm15 or tm7. its not cool and costs 3x as much as a bt tm15. guess what im not getting? the defender. if i had 300 bucks, maybe id pick it up for that price, but 1300 is just stupid

[GhostJedai]

Originally Posted by zz rai

Will the D'Fender qualify for Mag Fed only games?

It could possibly qualify as a "box-mag" fed support, but probably not for your run of the mill games.

[GreeN NitemarE]

Originally Posted by Screaming4vengence

I think that's phosperous that reacts with water although magnesium does burn very hot and bright red.

Magnesium burns white.

[GhostJedai]

Originally Posted by GreeN NitemarE

Magnesium burns white.

As someone who got to play around with pure magnesium and water in HS chemistry, I can confirm this.

[spantol]

Originally Posted by Jaccen

I presume this is the patent Simon worked on at AGD, correct? Or did he have another patent for the warp while he was there?

Couldn't tell you. I'd love to know if he was involved in that one.

[Paint_hore]

Either way this is pretty cool looking.

[**Entropy**]

Much more comfortable to hold than I was expecting. I like it allot, I don't ply woods ball much but if I did I would totaly rock this.

[Jonestowntea]

Great work to the boys at empire...

[Riot mad cow]

Great looking product from Empire! I cannot wait to try this out, I am sure I will see some on fields soon!

[AoSpades]

Kinda wondering how this is high-end when it is using mid-end internals?

Shame they didn't use the Vanquish internals, would have killed the DAM.

[Heygermandude]

Interior loader theories have been around for quite sometime.. I'm glad someone finally incorporated it into a mil sim!

[insixdays777]

Originally Posted by AoSpades

Kinda wondering how this is high-end when it is using mid-end internals?

Shame they didn't use the Vanquish internals, would have killed the DAM.

I think the axe guts are the better choice. not as oring and weather picky as the luxe guts...and lets not forget, Axe Lurker Bolt bounce off paint in the breach amazingness.

[AoSpades]

Originally Posted by insixdays777

I think the axe guts are the better choice. not as oring and weather picky as the luxe guts...and lets not forget, Axe Lurker Bolt bounce off paint in the breach amazingness.

I can see that. Good point. Axe being an inline poppet makes it more efficient than a spool as well as having the hopper integrated makes it much more streamlined.

You win.

[AndrewTheWookie]

Plus, the Axe internals are much shorter than the Vanquish/Luxe, so the loader can be that much closer to the breech.

[SilentBall55]

The Defender could be future Axes. Bright colors for speed ball and camo for woodsball.

[Vegard]

Originally Posted by FReEK

Pretty cool