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04-29-2009, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by yesme
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his name was barry seal, feel free to look him up.
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I see using him in a sting operation against the nicaroguan government.
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04-29-2009, 10:10 PM
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#23
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iFap
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: San Luis Obispo, CA
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Originally Posted by Rapier7
Going by this logic, crack shouldn't have any more of a severe penalty, because incarcerating people costs the state an unbelievable amount of money.
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Did I mention the state is racist?
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04-29-2009, 10:12 PM
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#24
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Originally Posted by NorCalBaller88
Did I mention the state is racist?
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sounds like this is becoming a big ad hoc conspiracy.
at some point, isn't there a simpler explanation?
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04-29-2009, 10:30 PM
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Aug. 18, 1997
The Washington Weekly
CIA Linked To Seal's Assassination
George Bush's Personal Phone Number Found in Seals' Trunk
By DANIEL HOPSICKER
"The biggest drug smuggler in American History was a CIA Agent."
http://www.idfiles.com/cia-linked-to-seal-death.htm
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04-29-2009, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by yesme
Aug. 18, 1997
The Washington Weekly
CIA Linked To Seal's Assassination
George Bush's Personal Phone Number Found in Seals' Trunk
By DANIEL HOPSICKER
"The biggest drug smuggler in American History was a CIA Agent."
http://www.idfiles.com/cia-linked-to-seal-death.htm
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Informant =/ agent.
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04-30-2009, 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim96SC2
Probably because crack, unlike cocaine, destroyed whole communities. I don't know how old a lot of you are, but the crack epidemic was pretty well covered when I was a kid in the news.
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Cocaine and Crack are basically the same exact thing, just Crack is cheaper and is taken differently. The reason why it 'destroyed' communities is because of how cheap it was. Cocaine didn't ruin entire communities because the people doing coke were the people working in high rise office buildings making 6 figures, or movie stars.
And yes, this isn't news; Our drug laws are way out of whack. As Shaka pointed out, thank Reagen.
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04-30-2009, 03:39 AM
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#28
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapier7
Going by this logic, crack shouldn't have any more of a severe penalty, because incarcerating people costs the state an unbelievable amount of money.
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Because throwing the poor, the uneducated, and the helpless in jail along with petty criminals... will never fail to get a politician elected.
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04-30-2009, 03:46 AM
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Wasn't Nixon the one who originally declared war on drugs? Granted, Reagan was the one who created the crack-specific laws (crack surfaced during his administration), but you can blame the drug debacle on every president since the 20's.
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04-30-2009, 10:06 AM
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Reaganomics!
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: I'm a M*******
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Originally Posted by Yet Another Goat
Wasn't Nixon the one who originally declared war on drugs? Granted, Reagan was the one who created the crack-specific laws (crack surfaced during his administration), but you can blame the drug debacle on every president since the 20's.
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Yes, but I believe Reagan was the one who actually ramped up it to the full scale war it is today. Don't quote me on that though.
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04-30-2009, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Furious Ge0rge
Cocaine and Crack are basically the same exact thing, just Crack is cheaper and is taken differently. The reason why it 'destroyed' communities is because of how cheap it was. Cocaine didn't ruin entire communities because the people doing coke were the people working in high rise office buildings making 6 figures, or movie stars.
And yes, this isn't news; Our drug laws are way out of whack. As Shaka pointed out, thank Reagen.
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Exactly, hence the probability why its got a harsher penalty. More easily made, distributed, and accessible.
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04-30-2009, 09:00 PM
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Smarter than you
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Originally Posted by Jim96SC2
Exactly, hence the probability why its got a harsher penalty. More easily made, distributed, and accessible.
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So why doesn't marijuana carry a harsher sentence? It's the "gateway drug", after all.
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04-30-2009, 10:04 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: ON, Canadia
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Every time I see the title, i read "crack powered cocaine". Just thought i'd share.
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04-30-2009, 10:29 PM
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Smarter than you
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Man, I can't believe I ****ed up the title. It's meant to be "powdered".
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05-01-2009, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Rapier7
So why doesn't marijuana carry a harsher sentence? It's the "gateway drug", after all.
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Because while it does have net negative effects, it didn't have that complete destruction that crack did on whole neighborhoods.
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05-01-2009, 12:49 PM
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Your PERSONAL Proshop
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: New Orleans, LA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkTamer
Breaking news: Our drug policies don't make sense!!
Btw, crack is cheaper and more powerful than it's powdered counterpart. Does it warrant penalties a 100x harsher? No, of course not (anyone that pays attention to my posts know I favor zero punishment for personal drug use/possession alone anyway), but it certainly is a bigger threat.
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No
THe idea is that cocaine = the rich white man's drug and thus suffers less of a penalty.
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05-01-2009, 12:54 PM
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Reaganomics!
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: I'm a M*******
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Originally Posted by PbN_AutoTrader
No
THe idea is that cocaine = the rich white man's drug and thus suffers less of a penalty.
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What do you mean no? What does that have to do with what I posted? I never discussed the reasons behind the penalties, merely that it's cheaper and more powerful, thus a stronger response makes sense in my mind (just not a 100x more...).
You seem to have an infatuation with stalking me and trying to call me out. You keep on failing pretty hard though... try working on your reading comprehension and staying on topic.
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05-01-2009, 01:17 PM
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Your PERSONAL Proshop
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: New Orleans, LA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkTamer
What do you mean no? What does that have to do with what I posted? I never discussed the reasons behind the penalties, merely that it's cheaper and more powerful, thus a stronger response makes sense in my mind (just not a 100x more...).
You seem to have an infatuation with stalking me and trying to call me out. You keep on failing pretty hard though... try working on your reading comprehension and staying on topic.
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How is crack a "bigger threat" than cocaine?
Please, do tell.
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05-01-2009, 01:38 PM
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#39
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Yes you like mr bunny
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Eastern WA
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I want some coke......
but the ****s $6 for a ****ing 12 pack
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05-01-2009, 02:26 PM
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IV:XX
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Event Horizon
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Originally Posted by PbN_AutoTrader
How is crack a "bigger threat" than cocaine?
Please, do tell.
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Its more addictive, the high doesn't last as long so you use it more often, its less expensive which leads to easier access are the first things that come to my mind. Don't get me wrong, coke isn't anything to play around with either, but crack is surely more dangerous and a bigger threat.
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05-01-2009, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by phiend
Its more addictive, the high doesn't last as long so you use it more often, its less expensive which leads to easier access are the first things that come to my mind. Don't get me wrong, coke isn't anything to play around with either, but crack is surely more dangerous and a bigger threat.
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yep, that and people that do crack will more likely do way stupider **** compared to those who do coke.
and my friend didn't get 5 years and he got caught with an ounce of base. when will you guys understand that the courts try to give you a break?
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05-01-2009, 03:21 PM
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#42
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Smarter than you
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Originally Posted by mypresidentiswack
yep, that and people that do crack will more likely do way stupider **** compared to those who do coke.
and my friend didn't get 5 years and he got caught with an ounce of base. when will you guys understand that the courts try to give you a break?
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Only if you're white, it seems.
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