[EmpireEmperor]

Originally Posted by imhungry

manning is on pace to having one of his best years ever coming off 3 major surgeries. Luck and especially RG3 might not even make the playoffs.

manning, watt, AD and luck are all better choices. IMO it really is AP's race to lose

I'm not sure why you're even arguing with the guy. He misspells the man's name (whether accidentally because he's an idiot or on purpose in some misguided attempt at humor) and he thinks postseason performance should be factored into an award that is and always has been based solely on regular season performance.

[Featherlite 07]

I can't say I disagree with what he is saying. Problem is so many people in this forum have such a hard on for Manning they are incapable of actually having a discussion on the subject.

[EmpireEmperor]

I've got nothing against the guy trying to make a case for someone other than Manning as MVP. He's just doing a terrible job of it.

[madgoat]

no, we can just watch football and actually SEE what's going on. not just stare at the screen drooling then looking at final stats and jerking off to a system qb with one of the best coaches ever on his sideline.

[imhungry (Banned)]

Originally Posted by pink04teletubbie

Watt as defensive player of the year, but MVP? There's no one on that team more deserving of that title than Foster.

i think i want you to perish.

If it's really MVP, a QB should pretty much always get the award, unless you have some godly defensive player. A good QB is always going to be more valuable than a RB or almost all defensive players.

i pretty much agree unless it is someone like AD or Watt (who i dont think should get it but he should get consideration considering the insane impact he has on that D).

Originally Posted by EmpireEmperor

I'm not sure why you're even arguing with the guy. He misspells the man's name (whether accidentally because he's an idiot or on purpose in some misguided attempt at humor) and he thinks postseason performance should be factored into an award that is and always has been based solely on regular season performance.

i really dont care about his manning comment, i was more astounded by his AD one. regardless, manning makes a better case for MVP than bob griff as well as luck

[pink04teletubbie]

Guess I'll let you guys continue the nut ride. Call me when he beats somebody good.

[Paintnoob13]

Originally Posted by pink04teletubbie

Guess I'll let you guys continue the nut ride. Call me when he beats somebody good.

He **** all over the team that beat the falcons

[Marko34256]

Doesnt really seem like there are a lot of players going huge this year. As much as I hate Manning for choosing Denver, he's a solid candidate.

Maybe Rodgers or Brady.

AP is a good choice if the rest of the Vikings can get their **** together.

[imhungry (Banned)]

Originally Posted by pink04teletubbie

Guess I'll let you guys continue the nut ride. Call me when he beats somebody good.

the bungels and they **** all over the saints. RGIII has not beaten anyone spectacular either

[pink04teletubbie]

and lost to the falcons themselves, who later beat the team that "**** all over them".
And ATL picked him 3 times in like 10 minutes. More than any team all season.
Whats your point?

[AdReNaLiN jUnKeE]

Originally Posted by Kellster

YPC is a pretty meaningless stat in the NFL, especially when Weeden is your QB.

Richardson is a workhorse back you can give the ball to 20 times a game and he can be your offense. That's what the Browns drafted him to be.

Originally Posted by pink04teletubbie

Your response clearly proves so. Thank you for you mentally stimulating input. Look forward to hearing from you again.

If only ninja still did the nfl awards.... Here are your winners for biggest delusional homer and most uninformed poster

[madgoat]

Originally Posted by Kellster

YPC is a pretty meaningless stat in the NFL, especially when Weeden is your QB.

Richardson is a workhorse back you can give the ball to 20 times a game and he can be your offense. That's what the Browns drafted him to be.

lol no its not. Christian ponder is mediocre and ap is popping off. josh freeman is Doug Martins qb and hes had an infinitely better season than richardson. yea cool he can take the ball 20 times a game and gain 70 yards. they could have grabbed up a practice squad schmoe for that. ypc is never a meaningless start unless you're comparing a short yardage back. ****, Richardson's longest run of the year is 32 yards. where are the yards after contact? where are the big gashing runs? like his predecessor, he's just not that good

[imhungry (Banned)]

i believe he is from Missouri, chances are extremely high that he is butt bumping meth right now

[Paintnoob13]

He also has the douchiest signature

[imhungry (Banned)]

yea he is definitely butt bumping meth in the back of his hatch back '95 civic

[pink04teletubbie]

Ahhh yes, OT subforums and their fantastic ability to provide intellectual debate. This whole argument\counter argument thing must be new to you all.

Sucks you can't provide anything decent to say in regards to your god of a QB manning, but rather commentate on my location and signature. Well done.

[Paintnoob13]

You said to let you know when Peyton beats a good team. He beat the Saints. He's also tied for 2nd in passer rating, touchdowns, and completion percentage.

[Barber]

Manning MVP, AP OPOY, Watt DPOY.

That ain't no guess, that's what it's gonna be.

[Kellster]

Originally Posted by madgoat

lol no its not. Christian ponder is mediocre and ap is popping off. josh freeman is Doug Martins qb and hes had an infinitely better season than richardson. yea cool he can take the ball 20 times a game and gain 70 yards. they could have grabbed up a practice squad schmoe for that. ypc is never a meaningless start unless you're comparing a short yardage back. ****, Richardson's longest run of the year is 32 yards. where are the yards after contact? where are the big gashing runs? like his predecessor, he's just not that good

This is ****ing stupid. He's the centerpiece of their offense which is what he was drafted for. You've never watched a Browns game.

[Kellster]

In his last five games, Richardson had:

134 all purpose yards and a TD against San Diego
136 all purpose yards against Baltimore
144 all purpose yards against Dallas
112 all purpose yards and a TD against Pittsburgh
95 all purpose yards and a TD against Oakland

He's given them good enough offensive production to be in every game, regardless of YPC.

[black_angus]

So he had a good stretch against a bunch of teams that are scrubs against the run.