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07-29-2014, 12:34 PM
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#85
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VIOLENT SERIES
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: midwest
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Originally Posted by tim2thousand4
Bob long has not used any Tadao products in a few years. He isn't planning on using them in the future either.
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Tim,
Bob can say he plans on not using Tadao in the future. The truth is Bob owes Tadao thousands of dollars. So its not really Bobs choice is it?
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07-29-2014, 03:55 PM
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#86
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Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Santa Cruz
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Originally Posted by Jack Rice
First, everyone who says they should cover the boards, you are right. You have the moral high ground.
That is being generous, more than generous - so let's cut it in half $37.50 and then let's cut it in half again. $18.75.
Now lets say it a $5,000 fee for setup and 3,000 parts minimum so $18.75 times 3,000 and $5,000 = $61,250
Now you can do the math many ways and, theoretically, get that number down. Maybe - only maybe - cut it in half, but this one you can't cut in half again.
Not knowing the part would fail it's unreasonable to buy enough to have on hand to cover all the bad ones. To get new ones made is expensive - if it's too expensive is a decision you have to make.
No dog in this fight - just saying.
Yep, I get it. As I started out with, you have the moral high ground. You win. Just understand there is a reason for the saying "you can't please everyone". At some point, some will be disappointed.
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Those maybe your numbers for producing boards you stick in your guns. But then again how are those gun sales coming along? Is it working out for ya?
Look I don't want to start a fight but in a world with KIA Motors to Lamborghini's and everything in between do you think there are different costs for seemingly similar products?
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07-29-2014, 10:49 PM
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#87
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SBPB
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Milwaukee
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I see tadao has replacement OLED screens up on their website, why is that not a good option compared to the led? Same problems as before?
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07-30-2014, 12:52 AM
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#88
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Up the Irons
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Michigan
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I hope most of you realize that the display manufacturer no longer makes the screens for these boards and they CANT replace them because they dont exist any more.
Sucks because its really not tadaos fault at all. What were they supposed to do? Test a screen for over a year to see if it will ever fail? Thats not how it works when you utilize a technology that has been proven to work reliably for a long time, unfortunately they got the short straw on this one.
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Originally Posted by jpmf1001
Tim,
Bob can say he plans on not using Tadao in the future. The truth is Bob owes Tadao thousands of dollars. So its not really Bobs choice is it?
-Walter
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Originally Posted by ecapox
This is grounds for a class action lawsuit. Portion of money back, full refund with return of defective board, or FREE led replacement board.
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because thats what this industry needs. They clearly did not mean to rape the entire paintball community so back off???
Should the SLG be grounds for a class action law suit against dye? Should we sue Eclipse for allowing the grip screws to puncture noids in their early ego? Should we sue Jack Rice because we dont like what he says??? Should we sue Bob Long for making stupid claims about his guns or maybe sue smart parts because they sued everyone else? Merica.
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07-31-2014, 01:53 AM
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#89
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Just my two cents received email from Will there is no led upgrade for yakuza intimidator boards, because oled screen can't be removed. Sorry guys
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07-31-2014, 04:43 AM
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hateyou for lyfe 816 army
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: K.C. Mo westport
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Yeah I spent 180 on a oled for my dm 13 not even a year later the screen went out completely. I contacted tadao and was told there os nothing they could do. So much for your worthless warranty. So now I have a $180 board I cant use cause it has no screen. Great way for this company to go out of business. . Take the money and run...
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07-31-2014, 10:54 AM
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#91
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: new jersey
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I'm not great with electronics and don't have a dog in this fight but there was no way to, you know, use another oled display instead of the one that was burning out after that company went belly up.
Are the small oled displays we see in all the modern guns that much different from each other, that a code update or adding a resistor or some other component wouldn't make them compatible?
It just sounds like finding another product that is already being used in the industry, on other boards and making that function, on the dead tadao boards was out of the question. Why?
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07-31-2014, 10:58 AM
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Uni Sucks....
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Victoria, BC
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I'd doubt they use the same pinouts. I'd have to do some research to find it. Even then, you'd need to find something with the same or similar voltage requirements.
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07-31-2014, 01:15 PM
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#93
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: new jersey
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Quote:
Originally Posted by new ion?
I'd doubt they use the same pinouts. I'd have to do some research to find it. Even then, you'd need to find something with the same or similar voltage requirements.
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I see what your saying bit if it's just pinout and small voltage change then that's crap that they couldn't make a different screen work with their product. They got an led module to work by mounting it to take the pinouts on their board and how drastic can voltage requirements be between the screen tadao used vs the virtue screens or ape screens or anyone else who produced a screen that was used in our industry.
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08-03-2014, 01:22 AM
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#94
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So I wonder if there is a fix for the SR board?
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03-25-2017, 12:34 AM
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#95
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karnage
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: castlegar BC/seattle WA
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even though im digging up the past. tadao lied to everyone, the original manufacturer of the screens is still around and in buisness producing the screens. you can order it by part number, i have a few of them i ordered to verify. with that said anyone able to micro solder these screens onto the plug in mini boards?
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03-25-2017, 03:35 AM
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#96
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Airsmith - Gun Tech
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Vacaville, CA
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If i remember correctly...and this may have been covered already, havent looked through this thread in quite a while...there was an issue with a transducer or some component that was put in the screens at the manufacturer level that caused them to fail eventually.
Someone correct me.if im wrong....but if that same issue isnt fixed wouldn't any new screens just eventuallumy do the same thing?
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03-25-2017, 10:19 AM
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karnage
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: castlegar BC/seattle WA
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my understanding looking at the spec sheet is that the screens have a rapidly declining life depending on voltage they're fed, starting at 3000hours at .1v the boards are capable of up to 1v at brightness 10. the spec sheet for the screens says something like 130 hours at.8v (thier max rating). can only imaging at the 1v mark for those that turned thier **** to 10 probably only saw a few hours of screen life
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03-25-2017, 10:39 AM
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#98
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Virtue isn't replacing their OLED screens anymore either. Lifetime warranty in paintball is a joke.
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03-27-2017, 04:41 PM
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I should but I don't
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: rAtlanta
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I have a few clocks with dead screens
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03-28-2017, 12:20 AM
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#100
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Northern CA
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Not sure where the though of OLED displays lasting forever came from but it is flat out incorrect. OLED screens of ANY type have a lifespan. They WILL go out at some point. The "O" in OLED stands for organic and with everything organic, it will break-down over time. The rate of degradation all depends on several variables but the end result will be the same - a dim then dead/black display.
Outreach is correct in that the brightness and the % of activated cells, along with time, greatly effects the lifespan for OLED displays. Furthermore, as pointed out by Outreach, the voltage applied to the screen is also a big factor, which brings up a good point. I will always recommend that people remove batteries from markers when not using them. If a board has some power leakage and voltage is leaked (sent) to the screen - even with the power off - this will go against the lifespan of the OLED display. Sometimes the voltage leak can be so small that it is not enough to actually light up the display so that it is noticeable but.....if there is voltage leakage, it's there and chipping away at the screen's lifespan.
Just a little info I thought I'd share since the subject has come up.
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04-13-2017, 05:50 PM
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#101
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New screen?
Im glad to see this post alive again. I saw that you had mentioned that you ordered some new screens. I have a Tadao Yakuza OLED USB board with a dead screen that i would love to get shooting again. Any luck getting then in and working? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
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05-04-2017, 09:40 PM
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#102
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Paintballin' Fool
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I just recently fixed mine. Brand new screen. I have another guy sending me a couple boards. I'm going to see how long it take me now that I've done one successfully and maybe and I can start repairing these.
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05-04-2017, 10:24 PM
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#103
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Can't find my old account
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mendolat
I just recently fixed mine. Brand new screen. I have another guy sending me a couple boards. I'm going to see how long it take me now that I've done one successfully and maybe and I can start repairing these.
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Ohhh, where did you get the replacement screen from?
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05-05-2017, 03:14 AM
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#104
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mendolat
I just recently fixed mine. Brand new screen. I have another guy sending me a couple boards. I'm going to see how long it take me now that I've done one successfully and maybe and I can start repairing these.
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You're the ****ing man. following to get a couple boards fixed.
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05-05-2017, 04:20 AM
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#105
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karnage
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: castlegar BC/seattle WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul77
Ohhh, where did you get the replacement screen from?
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the original manufacturer. they were still around and still making the screens. contrary to what tadaoh told everyone who asked for screen replacement under warantee. i had done some digging into it and shared that information with some people on the bob long group on facebook. ironically the manufacturer has since put up a disclaimer saying they are soon to kill this line of screens off
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