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Old 11-15-2004, 02:24 AM #1
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How to have a cheater gun and not get DQ'd

Heaven and Hell (div. III) player had a full auto gun, but before the referee asked him to turn it over he shut it off. Several referees admitted to witnessing the gun shooting full auto, but when it was turned back on and put on the robot it was fine.

The rules state that if the player shuts off the gun AFTER he is asked to relinquish the gun then the team is DQ'd, but since it was done BEFORE the player was asked, there was NO penalty. After talking to Dan Perez I found out they can't do anything about this loophole now, so if you want to use a cheater gun in NPPL just make sure you beat the ref to the punch and shut off the cheater mode before he can open his mouth.
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Old 11-15-2004, 03:19 AM #2
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how about u just dont cheat ******** cheater guns are dangerous and are banned for a reason.
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Old 11-15-2004, 04:19 AM #3
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it's only a matter of time they amend the rules to stop that
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Old 11-15-2004, 07:20 AM #4
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I think people should concentrate more on making a cheater Halo. No one checks those. Flip a switch on it after the game and it slows the max feed rate down to 12bps. Should get you by any test.
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Old 11-15-2004, 08:26 AM #5
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By next year this loophole will be closed.
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Old 11-15-2004, 08:27 AM #6
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i just pull my bolt forward, and shoot 3 times...that way the max bps i can pull is around 12 or so (i have a lasoya with was 2.7)
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Old 11-15-2004, 08:40 AM #7
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^that's a pretty well known technique, and it shouldn't fool anyone.

Hyper - The halo idea is actually pretty good

All - There is only one thing that is certain, that people will always find ways to cheat. All you can do is make the penalties severe and put more eyes on the players.
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Old 11-15-2004, 11:27 AM #8
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the thing is reffs are supposed to be paying attention during the game to pull him out the game and then test the gun giving him NO opportunity to turn it off, it was made VERY clear in the capts. meeting that they wouldnt wait to the end of a game, that they will pull u during the game if they suspect it of "adding shots"
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Old 11-15-2004, 05:59 PM #9
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Why doesnt the nppl purchase all these chips and teach the refs how to enable the modes?!?? It would be soooo simple to catch them if they learned the codes to enable the chips.
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Old 11-15-2004, 06:01 PM #10
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b/c if NPPL just bought every new cheater board that came out then they would just b contributing to ppl making new cheater boards
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Old 11-15-2004, 06:18 PM #11
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and some people make there own and dont sell them
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Old 11-15-2004, 06:22 PM #12
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And some cheater boards have a unique code to each board.
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^^^ aexactly. the advantage pb llc speedy 2 chip (one of the ones from advantage that was banned whether or not it is used to cheat) enables you to build a certain code that you make up to switch into cheater mode. such as:

1. power button
2. eye toggle
3.eye toggle
4.power button
5.eye toggle
6. power button

now thats the 300 dollar one. the 200 dollar one comes with a preset cheater booting sequence. the refs probabaly know that one. then theres two 100 dollar one- one is a NXL board- the other is a board with tourney legal stock mode and max your loader at 6 bps (very fast, ive shot one)
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Old 11-15-2004, 11:46 PM #14
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i just pull my bolt forward, and shoot 3 times...that way the max bps i can pull is around 12 or so (i have a lasoya with was 2.7)
if you pull the trigger or touch a switch after the reff asks for your gun: instant dq.
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Old 11-15-2004, 11:51 PM #15
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yea, i remember seeing this **** happen. it was on the chronic field on sat.
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Old 11-16-2004, 11:39 AM #16
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yea, i remember seeing this **** happen. it was on the chronic field on sat.
i was watching that too. that guy dropped his gun and it shot for like 5 seconds. then he turned it off when he went to the dead box
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Old 11-16-2004, 11:44 AM #17
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cheating is gay. pros are gay. the only thing that makes a pro a pro is that he can cheat better than all the amatures.
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Old 11-16-2004, 04:32 PM #18
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the speedy chips are SWEET

how would they know you have a speedy chip if you don't turn it on?
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Old 11-16-2004, 04:34 PM #19
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Boo for cheaters!
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Old 11-16-2004, 06:18 PM #20
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the speedy chips are SWEET

how would they know you have a speedy chip if you don't turn it on?

they cant. thats the point. i gues the refs could hold you at gunpoint demanding the code to turn on the ramping...
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Old 11-17-2004, 01:34 AM #21
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the speedy chip themselves has markings on it, my bet is that the nppl will be having people open up the grip frame and will be inspecting the chips.
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