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Old 12-14-2005, 11:10 AM #64
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That's awesome...how much did it cost to make?
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Old 12-14-2005, 07:56 PM #65
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Consider yourself a future rich dude.
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Old 12-15-2005, 01:07 PM #66
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very nice, he said he was on his lunch break making the body get off his ****, he is intitled to his own time, even though he may be backuped on orders he does have a life, your saying that when he is on the toilet he should be working on half block cockers?.... people need time for them selves. your basically saying u dont want him eating, watching tv or taking a ****, because he is backed up on orders?
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Old 12-15-2005, 01:23 PM #67
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Yeah, fdjizm is right, this guy makes a sick looking new product, and people start to flame him? There is a reason he is backed up on orders people, because his products are GOOD and people buy them. So everybody can now stop being jealous of his success and move on with your lives. You all should just be thankful that there are still innovative people around in the paintball industry.
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:04 PM #68
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Why delrin? Why not Vespel?
I hate to quote myself but you never answered my question...
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:56 PM #69
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Well Vespel is great for no friction but it is very brittle. It chips easy and I could try to make one. Vespel is also very expensive
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Old 12-15-2005, 03:40 PM #70
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nice try up
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Old 12-15-2005, 07:03 PM #71
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Yeah, fdjizm is right, this guy makes a sick looking new product, and people start to flame him? There is a reason he is backed up on orders people, because his products are GOOD and people buy them. So everybody can now stop being jealous of his success and move on with your lives. You all should just be thankful that there are still innovative people around in the paintball industry.
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There lies the problem. He said that. After all of the stunts he has pulled, there is no reason to believe him on anything he says, so there is no reason for me to think that he actually did do this over his lunch break.
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Old 12-15-2005, 09:09 PM #73
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Old 12-15-2005, 09:19 PM #74
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Yeah, fdjizm is right, this guy makes a sick looking new product, and people start to flame him? There is a reason he is backed up on orders people, because his products are GOOD and people buy them. So everybody can now stop being jealous of his success and move on with your lives. You all should just be thankful that there are still innovative people around in the paintball industry.

A halfblock conversion doesn't take long. I have done plenty myself. Once you have the parts pre-made..it takes about 30 minutes per gun.

He is entitled to his own time, but there is absolutely no reason he should be taking new halflbock work when other have been waiting on thier guns for months.

Thanks for treating your customers lousy Bob...lol It has kept me busy.

EDIT: What exactly do you own patents on?

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Old 12-16-2005, 04:20 PM #75
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Josh did you get my e-mail I sent you.
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Old 12-16-2005, 06:35 PM #76
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EDIT: What exactly do you own patents on?
yeh, i really cant think of anything innovative you've done.

maybe he has a patent on the halfblock 8 month waiting list.
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Old 12-16-2005, 07:35 PM #77
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-What a person can have patented,

In the language of the statute, any person who “invents or discovers any new and useful process, machine, manufacture, or composition of matter, or any new and useful improvement thereof, may obtain a patent,” subject to the conditions and requirements of the law. The word “process” is defined by law as a process, act or method, and primarily includes industrial or technical processes. The term “machine” used in the statute needs no explanation. The term “manufacture” refers to articles that are made, and includes all manufactured articles. The term “composition of matter” relates to chemical compositions and may include mixtures of ingredients as well as new chemical compounds. These classes of subject matter taken together include practically everything that is made by man and the processes for making the products.

-Design Patent

The patent laws provide for the granting of design patents to any person who has invented any new and nonobvious ornamental design for an article of manufacture. The design patent protects only the appearance of an article, but not its structural or functional features. The proceedings relating to granting of design patents are the same as those relating to other patents with a few differences. See current fee schedule for the filing fee for a design application. A design patent has a term of 14 years from grant, and no fees are necessary to maintain a design patent in force. If on examination it is determined that an applicant is entitled to a design patent under the law, a notice of allowance will be sent to the applicant or applicant’s attorney, or agent, calling for the payment of an issue fee. The drawing of the design patent conforms to the same rules as other drawings, but no reference characters are allowed and the drawing should clearly depict the appearance, since the drawing defines the scope of patent protection. The specification of a design application is short and ordinarily follows a set form. Only one claim is permitted, following a set form.


-Utility Patent

Issued for the invention of a new and useful process, machine, manufacture, or composition of matter, or a new and useful improvement thereof, it generally permits its owner to exclude others from making, using, or selling the invention for a period of up to twenty years from the date of patent application filing. Also referred to as "patents for invention."


-Provisional Application for a Patent

Since June 8, 1995, the USPTO has offered inventors the option of filing a provisional application for patent which was designed to provide a lower cost first patent filing in the United States and to give U.S. applicants parity with foreign applicants. Claims and oath or declaration are NOT required for a provisional application. Provisional application provides the means to establish an early effective filing date in a patent application and permits the term “Patent Pending” to be applied in connection with the invention.


-I have Provisional Patents on The Turtle Valve, The use of Acetal Plastics for a back block, the use of the pull pin cocking the Hammer. Now the Lawyers wrote it up better. The Patent is back on the Turtle Valve, just waiting on the other ones to come back. Was told they would take longer since there was more involved.

I didn't do these because of money. I enjoy doing this and have many more Ideas to come out with. Some are for The EGO.

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Old 12-16-2005, 09:33 PM #78
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Josh did you get my e-mail I sent you.
Yes, and I believe about 1% of it. I know for a fact that you don't mind lying. I have seen you lie on these boards and I know customers of yours you have directly lied to. You are not the kind of person I will believe without proof.
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Old 12-16-2005, 09:45 PM #79
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oh when is the girly fight gonna start? i wanna stick around and see it...
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Old 12-17-2005, 02:13 AM #80
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I enjoy doing this and have many more Ideas to come out with. Some are for The EGO.
Enjoy doing it? If so, we wouldn't be waiting for 8 months+. This isn't even very extensive work like crazily milling a viking.
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Old 12-17-2005, 07:06 AM #81
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Have you informed WGP that they are infringing on your patent for "use of pull pin cocking the hammer" with their new Black Magic? You seem intent to let Josh know he is wrong, just wondering if you were gonna do the same with a big fish.....
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Old 12-17-2005, 08:29 AM #82
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Lemme get this straight. This guy is not in charge of the milling right? So, if the milling work is backed up then it's not his fault. I don't understand the hating.
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Lemme get this straight. This guy is not in charge of the milling right? So, if the milling work is backed up then it's not his fault. I don't understand the hating.
Yes... he is. Check back a page or two and you will see where someone quoted him on where he said he worked with the milling, too.

Also, if he didn't work with the mills... Then how'd he make this body?
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Old 12-17-2005, 12:06 PM #84
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Like I said before I am not going after anyone. I did apply for the Patents and josh, and everone else. I didn't go after anyone. I just said this is not a forum for bashing Me it is just posting a Custom Marker. All you have to do is come up with q 30% change over the design that was put on the patent. If it is written up right you can make it very hard to make a 30 % change. If this is going to turn into a Bob Bashing Forum I will just have the administraror close the thread an open a new one.

Oh and Josh I am glad that I could help you out. 2006 will be a good year for Turtle Innovation. Like I said we have many new things coming out in 2006. and when anyone gets a conversion the name has stuck they call it a Turtle no matter who does the work. And really I don't care who does the work because I love the Autococker and feel that it is still one of the best markers out there even after 10 + years. So I am now done standing on my soap box and getting back to better things and please if you want to bash me start up a diffenerent forum and if you want I will start it for all of you.


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"Yes... he is. Check back a page or two and you will see where someone quoted him on where he said he worked with the milling, too.

Also, if he didn't work with the mills... Then how'd he make this body?"

Well In R&D Work you still have to make the product to test it and I also posted that I did this at my other job with there machines on my lunch break.

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