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Old 11-17-2008, 04:06 PM #106
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right now xball is just a new fad, it will die soon enough and something new will come up, that's my 2 cents
8 years is some kinda fad. My pet rock was uncool by the time I bought it.
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Old 11-17-2008, 04:08 PM #107
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8 years is some kinda fad. My pet rock was uncool by the time I bought it.
It hasn't really been 8 years, but what the heck. If xball is a fad, we could almost say the same about 10-man speedball. How long did that last?

God I wish 10-man would come back.
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Old 11-17-2008, 04:14 PM #108
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Two WAY diffrent things for starters PSP=Ramping NPPL=Semi only its not so easy to move.
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Old 11-17-2008, 04:16 PM #109
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It hasn't really been 8 years, but what the heck. If xball is a fad, we could almost say the same about 10-man speedball. How long did that last?

God I wish 10-man would come back.


lol... 10-man is awesome. If we are going to bring back 10-man, lets bring back remote lines too.
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Old 11-17-2008, 04:27 PM #110
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lol... 10-man is awesome. If we are going to bring back 10-man, lets bring back remote lines too.
Only if we use Mags, Impulses, Box Shockers, and Cockers.
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Old 11-17-2008, 04:30 PM #111
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Two WAY diffrent things for starters PSP=Ramping NPPL=Semi only its not so easy to move.
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Old 11-17-2008, 04:44 PM #112
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i like x ball more
watching it is better
and playing it is more fun imo

but the nppl does way more for the growth of the sport
the make tv shows, video games, bring in more outside sponsors
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Old 11-17-2008, 04:44 PM #113
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Only if we use Mags, Impulses, Box Shockers, and Cockers.
Ill be brining my minimag
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Old 11-17-2008, 04:45 PM #114
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lol... 10-man is awesome. If we are going to bring back 10-man, lets bring back remote lines too.
Waddya mean, bring "back". Anyone stupid enough to use a remote line in speedball is perfectly free to do so.
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Old 11-17-2008, 04:49 PM #115
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Waddya mean, bring "back". Anyone stupid enough to use a remote line in speedball is perfectly free to do so.
Seems like everyone used to be stupid enough to do it, we just need to make it a fad again.
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Old 11-17-2008, 04:49 PM #116
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I would like to see nxl and nppl combine. Use NXL game format with 7 man and uncapped semi. I think it would create a winning combination.
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Old 11-17-2008, 05:04 PM #117
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Seems like everyone used to be stupid enough to do it, we just need to make it a fad again.
Not it.
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Old 11-17-2008, 05:05 PM #118
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I would like to see nxl and nppl combine. Use NXL game format with 7 man and uncapped semi. I think it would create a winning combination.
Yeah, and change the scoring to 1 point for first pull, and two for the hang. 5-man sucks, but I always like a "real" centerflag format.
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Old 11-17-2008, 05:08 PM #119
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Why do people debate "which is better?"

Both leagues do excellent jobs of promoting the sport, and presenting themselves professionally, while providing a good time for players/spectators.

They also both have advantages, and disadvantages.

Get over it... If one ultimately proves to be significantly better, the other will flounder. This hasn't yet happened. Enjoy what you like for the time being; I highly doubt you're going to convince one another that a certain league is better.

I, personally, STRONGLY prefer the PSP. However, absolutely understand why a person would prefer participating in the NPPL.
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Old 11-17-2008, 05:38 PM #120
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Seems like everyone used to be stupid enough to do it, we just need to make it a fad again.
i miss my spyder with 20oz with remote line.....but not enough to give up what i got now


5 man FTW! but i do like semi auto better than ramping. i already feel like i waste enough paint.

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Old 11-17-2008, 06:46 PM #121
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7man does require more skill/intellect...

Any spaz can have a couple good matches in X-ball, but only truly good players will win 7man events consistently.

As a player, 7man is more fun... you get to figure out where the other team is, try to predict their moves and counter them, truly battle it out... it's just a lot more rewarding to play/win 7man games.

But filming/watching 7man is boring...
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Old 11-17-2008, 06:48 PM #122
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7man does require more skill/intellect...
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Old 11-17-2008, 07:22 PM #123
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xball? exciting? you mean the excitement that builds in the few seconds each point last in a game with sideline coaching and ramping? A.D.D.?
yea thats why its exciting bro, cuz so much **** is going down
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Old 11-17-2008, 07:36 PM #124
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X ball is exciting, D-1 Xbal is very exciting, but the NXL is really boring. Most of the time people get laned off the break, and then gun battle to their death.

Nppl is broing to watch on video or T.V but in person 7 man is much more exciting because great moves win games more often than gun battiling. And the Snake battles are by far my favorite thing to watch in paintball
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Old 11-17-2008, 07:51 PM #125
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lol srsly.

Any spazzball can run to a bunker, shoot a lane, and move when someone tells them to.

1 year of training with the Russians and you "could" be the best NXL player in the world, yet you'd suck *** at 7man. Teams that win 7man have players who have been playing for a LONG time.
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Old 11-17-2008, 08:20 PM #126
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Teams that win 7man have players who have been playing for a LONG time.
7-man games do take a while, don't they?

I really love people who are apparently incapable of thinking for themselves. You seem to have had someone tell you something. It seems to support what you want to believe. So you repeat it.

The problem is, the thing you're repeating isn't true.

NPPL Pro 7-man series champion:

Dynasty.

NXL Regular Season leader:

Dynasty.

NPPL Pro 7-man Season 2nd place:

Ironmen

NXL Champs:

Ironmen.

Doesn't look like 7-man winners have any more experience than XBall winners to me.

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That's true - any spazzball can do that.

But just like you had no idea what you were talking about when you said 7-man players have 'played longer', you don't know what you're talking about here. Sure, any spazzball can do that. But that's not the interesting question. The interesting question is, can they just do that AND WIN?

They won't.

Tell you what. How about the first XBall event next year, I hire out the Ironmen's or Dynasty's or Legion's or American's coaching staff (your choice), and pay your team's entry.

Your team is going to win the NXL now, right? Right?

Or are you going to get your ***** handed to you?

What's your excuse going to be when you lose every match 9 to 0? Since it can't have been the coaching, according to your reasoning, that must mean you either can't run to a bunker, can't shoot a lane, or can't move when someone tells you.

And if you are losing because you can't run to bunkers, can't shoot lanes, and can't move when someone tells you to, I would submit that MAYBE the problem isn't the format. MAYBE the problem is that you're not any good.


Anyone who says that XBall is just moving when people tell you to is being stupid. It's a patently absurd statement. If it were true, there wouldn't be any Pro players. You'd have paid Pro coaches, and the players would be whoever you could pick up off the street.


We get it. 7-man is slower. You don't know where the other players are all the time. It takes time to figure it out. But not knowing where your opponent is (or your opponent not knowing where you are) doesn't make XBall any less strategic than 7-man, any more than Chess is any less strategic if you don't play wearing a blindfold.

Here's another board game anology:

If XBall is like Checkers, 7-man is like Battleship.

One is based on making the best decision knowing where your opponent is, AND with your opponent knowing where you are.

The other is guessing.

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