Door step/ front porch. Dogs did not go off(16yr old lab/collie, 4yr old American bulldog 85lbs). In the case with all the support gear in case. Now turning to crime lab. Do not want to know who returned. The mag users in the area are tight, but also a little older and not the ones to short shift. So I rejoice, accept, and look forward to playing with her. And if they managed to teach a lesson, not my place to judge.