[barrel roll]

Originally Posted by F1VENOM

Go try it, you'll soon find out it ****ing sucks. Why do you think so many of them turn to drugs and theft?

Too much free time and no satisfaction?

[OccupyST]

Originally Posted by Animal_Mother

560 x 52 = $29120 ... Still insignificant?

Originally Posted by Animal_Mother

I'll let ya know in a couple of months.

Yes, it is. Also your refund should help make it even more insignificant compared to the rest of your life.

[Animal_Mother (Banned)]

Maybe you should go occupy employment somewhere and get back to me.

[F1VENOM]

Originally Posted by barrel roll

Yes.

I thought a step club had to do with that particular style of dance.

What's wrong with supporting a legitimate business?

Link?

[barrel roll]

Originally Posted by OccupyST

Yes, it is. Also your refund should help make it even more insignificant compared to the rest of your life.

Insignificant = nearly 50%

[Animal_Mother (Banned)]

Originally Posted by barrel roll

Too much free time and no satisfaction?

Beebop around da hood all day slinging rocks, sipping 40s and macking on hoes. I don't know how well that would jive here in the sticks.

[barrel roll]

Originally Posted by barrel roll

Electronic benefit transfer cards.

http://m.nbc-2.com/default.aspx?pid=2693&wnfeedurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.n bc-2.com%2Fstory%2F15478933%2Finvestigators-ebt-transactions%3Fclienttype%3Drssstory

Kinky

[F1VENOM]

Originally Posted by Animal_Mother

Maybe you should go occupy employment somewhere and get back to me.

If you were hiring would you hire a black man into your no education required low training job?

[sucka T.]

so you dont even know how much your tax refund will be? so how do you know how much of the 559.08 is going to the government and how much will be a tax refund? you know you have control over how much is taken out each paycheck by how you fill out your w-4 form when you start your job. the w-4 does not go to the IRS, its an internal form used by your employer only, you can lie on the w-4

[F1VENOM]

Originally Posted by barrel roll

Kinky

Texting OB too much?

[Animal_Mother (Banned)]

Originally Posted by F1VENOM

If you were hiring would you hire a black man into your no education required low training job?

If he seemed willing and able to work, I'd give him a shot. There are a couple of blacks at my place of work, although 75% of them are on disability, go figure. And I love how you try to downplay my job, it's cute.

Originally Posted by sucka T.

so you dont even know how much your tax refund will be? so how do you know how much of the 559.08 is going to the government and how much will be a tax refund? you know you have control over how much is taken out each paycheck by how you fill out your w-4 form when you start your job. the w-4 does not go to the IRS, its an internal form used by your employer only, you can lie on the w-4

A couple of guys say **** hard work and now you say **** integrity. I love it.

[F1VENOM]

Originally Posted by Animal_Mother

If he seemed willing and able to work, I'd give him a shot. There are a couple of blacks at my place of work, although 75% of them are on disability, go figure. And I love how you try to downplay my job, it's cute

You're lying to save face, you'd give the job to a white person long before a black man. You said it yourself, you swap and grease parts in a factory for $70-$100k per year. That's no time invested by you for a job that pays damn good money and even has benefits.

[Animal_Mother (Banned)]

Why are we talking hypothetically about who I'd give a job to? I am not currently in a position to hire or fire people. And my job entails a bit more than just greasing parts. Don't you think they would pay a little less than they do if that's all there was to it? Is my job rocket science? No, and I'm not talking it up. It's blue collar factory ****. You wouldn't understand the job unless you saw it, and I don't care enough to explain it.

[OccupyST]

Sounds like your job pays well because the people in it get burned out... literally.

[Animal_Mother (Banned)]

The danger does play a role in the compensation, no doubt.

[sucka T.]

Originally Posted by Animal_Mother

A couple of guys say **** hard work and now you say **** integrity. I love it.

what does this have to do with integrity?

[Animal_Mother (Banned)]

You said, "you can lie on the w4." Are you not familiar with the word integrity?

[sucka T.]

Originally Posted by Animal_Mother

You said, "you can lie on the w4." Are you not familiar with the word integrity?

so you dont understand how the tax process works yet complain about taxes?

the w-4 is what companies use to determine how much money is taken out of your paycheck. the w-2 sent to the irs at the end of the year tells the irs how much you made, and how much was deducted throughout the year. the w-4 is in no way shape or form used by the IRS to determine your tax liability. if you lie on the w-4, you still owe the same tax liability as per the w-2, no matter how much was taken out by your employer. the IRS would get the same amount of money no matter what is put on the w-4. lying on your w-4 carries the same penalty as lying on a survey about papa johns. lying on your w-4 does the same to your tax liability owed to the government as taking a survey about papa johns would. the government cares about the w-4 form as much as they do about papa johns surveys

[drgonzo]

Originally Posted by Animal_Mother

I am pleased with how much I still take home every week but that doesn't change the fact that it is absolute bull**** for the government to **** with hard working people as much as they do. Especially when it comes to overtime. Why can't they cap taxable income to 40hr/wk to **** with us a little less? I am in my mid 20s and I am a machine operator. My job is to reach into live machinery and oil moving parts and fix **** when it breaks. Quite a few fellas missing digits in my department and almost all with bad burns at one point or another.

This would be a recipe for abuse and fiscal disaster. Rest assured that overtime tax rates are not your normal tax rate. Overtime reflects the tax rate if you were making 50-100% more than you do now. When you file your tax return if you were overtaxed, you get refunded the difference. So.... yeah unfounded *****ing from a person enjoying the fruits of collective bargaining. People with this attitude used to get straightened out right quick.

Originally Posted by sucka T.

so you dont understand how the tax process works yet complain about taxes?

the w-4 is what companies use to determine how much money is taken out of your paycheck. the w-2 sent to the irs at the end of the year tells the irs how much you made, and how much was deducted throughout the year. the w-4 is in no way shape or form used by the IRS to determine your tax liability. if you lie on the w-4, you still owe the same tax liability as per the w-2, no matter how much was taken out by your employer. the IRS would get the same amount of money no matter what is put on the w-4. lying on your w-4 carries the same penalty as lying on a survey about papa johns. lying on your w-4 does the same to your tax liability owed to the government as taking a survey about papa johns would. the government cares about the w-4 form as much as they do about papa johns surveys

well that's not 100% true, if you overclaim to the point that you don't pay your required periodic taxes throughout the year, you will have to pay a penalty at the end of the year. But you are right that you are free to tailor your exemptions to your liking.

[scienceguy]

Originally Posted by Animal_Mother

I bet it's ****ing awesome. Millions of maggots seem to be doing just fine.

I don't think it's quite as awesome as you say it is. The people I've seen here aren't very happy. In general, they're kept a few notches above angry. The scammers with six SS#s do much better.

I think you need to take account of what you really pay for with all those annoying social programs. You're really paying for social stability.

You claim to be someone that has fought in countries that lack these social programs so you've seen the results of a society with a large percentage of poor angry people. Do you think you would be able to stir up a hornets nest like Iraq, Somalia, Liberia, etc. in a population whose biggest health issue is obesity? You might be able to get a day or two or riots and looting, but then they get tired and go home.

You pay for something in the West, and for the most part you get it. Elections aren't bookended by violence and you don't have razor wire around your house.

Your other option is a powerful secret police like North Korea and Saddam's Iraq. I, personally, would prefer to complain about taxes over political prison.

If you hate your union status so much, Foxconn is always hiring.

[barrel roll]

Negotiating for your own wages > paying a "tax" to another bureaucracy for them to negotiate your wages