[benji25]

Originally Posted by Animal_Mother

I am pleased with how much I still take home every week but that doesn't change the fact that it is absolute bull<del>****</del> for the government to <del>****</del> with hard working people as much as they do. Especially when it comes to overtime. Why can't they cap taxable income to 40hr/wk to <del>****</del> with us a little less? I am in my mid 20s and I am a machine operator. My job is to reach into live machinery and oil moving parts and fix <del>****</del> when it breaks. Quite a few fellas missing digits in my department and almost all with bad burns at one point or another.

Good luck policing that. Sure in jobs where you have to be at work to perform your job it may work but a crap ton of people and work from home and/or travel for work. How simple would it be to sit there and half-*** work at home every night to say you worked 20 hours of overtime or count traveling for work as work and get tax free income?

Among other issues, of course.

[Animal_Mother (Banned)]

Originally Posted by OccupyST

This thread amused me.

The wealthier you get, the more your cost of living spikes for no fault but your own. Obviously it's great to have nice things--but you get trapped in a lifestyle of fiscal stupidity. I myself am guilty as hell BUT because of that I never discuss or complain about taxes. It would make me an *******. If I did, I wouldn't respect myself. I'd have to move out of the ridiculous apartment I'm living in that features a doorman, concierge, and maid staff. I'd have to sell my overpriced sports car that costs a hair over a grand just for stickers every year. I'd have to get rid of the vacation house I haven't visited in over a year. I'd have to learn to cook and not eat out every night totaling about $2,500/mo in credit card charges. The list goes on... But you understand right? Everyone I know is guilty of it to some degree. Everyone past ~50k/yr has extras that could EASILY be subtracted. Suggesting that you "bust you ***" and "all of that money should be mine--I earned it..." You did earn it--good job. But calm down and evaluate your life a bit if you're actually doing well off and still get high blood pressure over your check every week...

So to summarize Animal_Mother: Stop buying expensive/excessive **** if your $62k salary isn't comfortable enough for you to not ***** about taxes..

(Now... I will go on record and confess to complaining every once in a while about wasteful spending within the government--specifically local/city projects. $13 million for a train stop no larger than a camper? $60,000 per toilet at a public park? Things like that.)

I drive a 13yr old truck and live modestly, yet debt free. Are there some things I could go with out? Sure, but I could have said the same when I was making $20k/yr

Originally Posted by F1VENOM

So you get paid double the median US salary for a job that requires little training and education? Tell me again how that abject poverty is preventing you from affording a place to live or food for your family.

I can afford a place to live and put food on the table. Does that mean I shouldn't be allowed to put more into a college fund for my children instead of in Uncle Sam's pocket? Maybe someday when you have a real job and a family you'll understand.

[Animal_Mother (Banned)]

Originally Posted by benji25

Good luck policing that. Sure in jobs where you have to be at work to perform your job it may work but a crap ton of people and work from home and/or travel for work. How simple would it be to sit there and half-*** work at home every night to say you worked 20 hours of overtime or count traveling for work as work and get tax free income?

Among other issues, of course.

There are ways to scam the system no matter what, but for jobs like mine that involve punching in/out I think it would be pretty easy to regulate. Paying taxes is a part of the game, I get that, but to take over 30% of my overtime pay is robbery after they've already taken over 30% of my regular pay.

(or whatever the exact % is, but it's around 30)

[F1VENOM]

Originally Posted by Animal_Mother

I drive a 13yr old truck and live modestly, yet debt free. Are there some things I could go with out? Sure, but I could have said the same when I was making $20k/yr



I can afford a place to live and put food on the table. Does that mean I shouldn't be allowed to put more into a college fund for my children instead of in Uncle Sam's pocket? Maybe someday when you have a real job and a family you'll understand.

You're still able to do all of that and live comfortably making what you do now. Taxes pay for a lot of services, I don't see how it's still hard for you to understand.

I've already had a few "real" jobs and what I payed in taxes wasn't a concern because of how little I made. Made the smart choice to go back and get an education. I don't see why you don't bust out that GI Bill and make life easier for yourself instead of complaining about how good your life is.

[im bad at pbx]

Why raise taxes on people that pay them when 1/2 the country doesn't pay taxes? I mean that's the real problem. All of our taxes are about to skyrocket so some lazy jack *** can sit on his *** with his Obama care and welfare. I feel your pain.

[Animal_Mother (Banned)]

Originally Posted by F1VENOM

You're still able to do all of that and live comfortably making what you do now. Taxes pay for a lot of services, I don't see how it's still hard for you to understand.

I've already had a few "real" jobs and what I payed in taxes wasn't a concern because of how little I made. Made the smart choice to go back and get an education. I don't see why you don't bust out that GI Bill and make life easier for yourself instead of complaining about how good your life is.

I am also getting an education and using my GI bill. Although I don't know many college grads making what I am right now. I don't know why it's so hard for you to admit that it's bull**** that the harder you work, the more they want to **** you. I hope someday you get it.

[SniperForce-Duffek]

Originally Posted by Animal_Mother

How much I paid in taxes for this past week of work.

Just look at it this way. $560 of that goes to my VA disability every month.

[OccupyST]

Originally Posted by benji25

Good luck policing that. Sure in jobs where you have to be at work to perform your job it may work but a crap ton of people and work from home and/or travel for work. How simple would it be to sit there and half-*** work at home every night to say you worked 20 hours of overtime or count traveling for work as work and get tax free income?

Among other issues, of course.

Time/Logging systems help. It is a reality many small companies are researching as this whole "cloud" thing takes over. If an employee is remoted in, they are usually task/results driven as opposed to a convenience store/retail clerk. Different work roles altogether I'd think.

[F1VENOM]

Originally Posted by Animal_Mother

I am also getting an education and using my GI bill. Although I don't know many college grads making what I am right now.

So your life's so good and you still whine. ****ing WPFWP in here.

It's not uncommon for STEM grads to pull $70k a year starting, but of course that's regional.

[OccupyST]

Originally Posted by im bad at pbx

Why raise taxes on people that pay them when 1/2 the country doesn't pay taxes? I mean that's the real problem. All of our taxes are about to skyrocket so some lazy jack *** can sit on his *** with his Obama care and welfare. I feel your pain.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...88H0ZN20120918

[F1VENOM]

Originally Posted by Animal_Mother

I don't know why it's so hard for you to admit that it's bull**** that the harder you work, the more they want to **** you. I hope someday you get it.

What are you being deprived of? A jetski? More vacations? A brand new truck every year?

[Animal_Mother (Banned)]

My life is "so good" because I work my *** off for everything I have. 50+hr work weeks and 12cr again this semester... Just living the dream. Does that at all change the fact that hard working Americans are over taxed? I think not.

[F1VENOM]

Originally Posted by Animal_Mother

My life is "so good" because I work my *** off for everything I have. 50+hr work weeks and 12cr again this semester... Just living the dream. Does that at all change the fact that hard working Americans are over taxed? I think not.

So sit back, grab a beer and be happy you can afford the internet you use to whine.

[Animal_Mother (Banned)]

Originally Posted by F1VENOM

What are you being deprived of? A jetski? More vacations? A brand new truck every year?

Money that I earned, why is that concept so tough to grasp? If you want to talk about how little you need in life, I could solve our social welfare problems pretty quickly by giving everyone on welfare the lifestlye I lived in Iraq and many more have lived in Afghanistan/Iraq. No running water or electricity, piss in a tube and burn your own ****. Saves us millions right there.

[F1VENOM]

Originally Posted by Animal_Mother

Money that I earned, why is that concept so tough to grasp? If you want to talk about how little you need in life, I could solve our social welfare problems pretty quickly by giving everyone on welfare the lifestlye I lived in Iraq and many more have lived in Afghanistan/Iraq. No running water or electricity, piss in a tube and burn your own ****. Saves us millions right there.

So you're not missing out on much by paying those taxes. You act as if you pay someone an extortion fee for no benefit. Look around, everything you love and fought for/with was paid for with tax dollars.

[Animal_Mother (Banned)]

Originally Posted by F1VENOM

So sit back, grab a beer and be happy you can afford the internet you use to whine.

But of course if I couldn't afford it, it'd be okay for someone else to pay for it for me right?

[Overbear]

Originally Posted by Animal_Mother

How much I paid in taxes for this past week of work. I'm sure none of you give a ****, but I think that's ****ed up. Why do these *******s find it necessary to tax the **** out of my paycheck including my overtime? I honestly think that income tax should be capped to 40hrs/wk or $500 (or maybe much lower?), which ever comes first. I still came home with over $1200 so I will get by, but I better get a good tax return or I'm smacking some hoes.

Thats it? you are *****ing about paying 560 bucks in taxes a week. I WISH thats all they took and I have deductions like crazy!

[Animal_Mother (Banned)]

Originally Posted by F1VENOM

So you're not missing out on much by paying those taxes. You act as if you pay someone an extortion fee for no benefit. Look around, everything you love and fought for/with was paid for with tax dollars.

I can't recall saying I shouldn't pay ANY taxes. I said there should be a cap on how much they can take per paycheck (every week in my case).

[barrel roll]

Originally Posted by F1VENOM

What are you being deprived of? A jetski? More vacations? A brand new truck every year?

Who are you to deprive a man the fruits of his labor? You make it seem your position is the government owns us.

[F1VENOM]

Originally Posted by Animal_Mother

I can't recall saying I shouldn't pay ANY taxes. I said there should be a cap on how much they can take per paycheck (every week in my case).

Pretty sure there's a cap and you can't buy beer with foodstamps.

[OccupyST]

Frankie says relax.