Will creationism ever be learned in public schools?

gwac · 03-05-2007, 03:59 PM

IN your opinion do you think the concept of creationism or god will be taught in public school?
If so why?
If not why?
Thanks
gwac

Ari Shaffir · 03-05-2007, 04:00 PM

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Will creationism ever be learned in public schools?

lol

Actually I have a question to you.

Why are you asking?

graysonp · 03-05-2007, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by gwac

Will creationism ever be learned in public schools?

I don't know, but I hope that English eventually will be...

MVPaintballer · 03-05-2007, 04:02 PM

I hope not.

gwac · 03-05-2007, 04:02 PM

Just wondering, theres some people i know who demand that.

RamboPreacher · 03-05-2007, 04:02 PM

I doubt it, unless it is done in a religion or comparative religions class. It is done all the time in private schools.

alex06 · 03-05-2007, 04:04 PM

Nope, thanks to something called separation of church and state.

FuzzyFish · 03-05-2007, 04:10 PM

No, Creationism isn't a scientific theory. The theory of evolution may or may not be right, but if nothing more, it at least follows the scientific method. * Observation.
* Description.
* Prediction.
* Control.
* Falsifiability
* Causal explanation.
* Identification of causes.
* Covariation of events
* Time-order relationship.

In order to teach creationism into school you have to admit you are teaching religion in your schools. Creationism is essentially just religion disguised as science. This would challenge peoples ability to choose whatever religion they want to believe. If you teach that a "God" made us, even if you don't specify which religions God, you automatically tell people that 1) there is a God, and 2) that there isn't more then one God.

MVPaintballer · 03-05-2007, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by alex06

Nope, thanks to something called separation of church and state.

Ehh, that's being taken completely out of context. Separation of church and state means that the government won't force it's people to follow a certain religion or they won't be run by a certain religion (Catholicism is known for it).

Teaching a religion in school is not separation of church and state, and it's done all the time. I learned about Islam, Rastafarianism, Hinduism, Buddhism, and many other religions in my public High School. But our society tells us it's wrong to have any sort of pride when you're a part of a majority (such as being white, Christian, American, etc.)

FuzzyFish · 03-05-2007, 04:12 PM

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Nope, thanks to something called separation of church and state.
Ehh, that's being taken completely out of context. Separation of church and state means that the government won't force it's people to follow a certain religion or they won't be run by a certain religion (Catholicism is known for it).

Teaching a religion in school is not separation of church and state, and it's done all the time. I learned about Islam, Rastafarianism, Hinduism, Buddhism, and many other religions in my public High School. But our society tells us it's wrong to have any sort of pride when you're a part of a majority (such as being white, Christian, American, etc.)

When i was in high school they gave us a general education on all the bigger religons (christianity, Islam and judism.) Not much on the smaller ones like the rastas though.

SuperSupra619 (Banned) · 03-05-2007, 04:13 PM

no, it doesn't belong in schools in this country. You can not teach faith

alex06 · 03-05-2007, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MVPaintballer

Ehh, that's being taken completely out of context. Separation of church and state means that the government won't force it's people to follow a certain religion or they won't be run by a certain religion (Catholicism is known for it).

Teaching a religion in school is not separation of church and state, and it's done all the time. I learned about Islam, Rastafarianism, Hinduism, Buddhism, and many other religions in my public High School. But our society tells us it's wrong to have any sort of pride when you're a part of a majority (such as being white, Christian, American, etc.)

Nevermind, I was thinking if they started teaching kids creationism like it was 100% correct.

MVPaintballer · 03-05-2007, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperSupra619

no, it doesn't belong in schools in this country. You can not teach faith

Why not? They already do.

GoldEaglev2 · 03-05-2007, 04:26 PM

Evolution = Widely accepted scientific theory
Creation = Widely followed unexplainable myth

No.

MVPaintballer · 03-05-2007, 04:32 PM

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Creation = Widely followed unexplainable myth

You're walking a thin line on being disrespectful.

GoldEaglev2 · 03-05-2007, 04:46 PM

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You're walking a thin line on being disrespectful.

I would have to disagree with you on that.

Widely followed - Around 40-45% of the US population believe in Creation
Unexplainable - Show me some viable scientific evidence that explains Creation.
Myth - In short, a story told through tradition, concerning a deity/hero, with (or without) an explanation for something not fully known at that time.

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a traditional or legendary story, usually concerning some being or hero or event, with or without a determinable basis of fact or a natural explanation, esp. one that is concerned with deities or demigods and explains some practice, rite, or phenomenon of nature.

Sorry for offending you, that was not my intent.

elTwitcho · 03-05-2007, 05:00 PM

I hope it's never taught in school. School should focus on scientific theory, otherwise there isn't any method of discerning which "origin beliefs" (I don't consider creationism a theory) you teach and which you don't. If you teach that, why aren't you teaching the Hindu beliefs on the origin of the world? Or the NAtive American belief that the world is on the back of a turtle. Or the Zen Buddhist belief that it's all an illusion anyway.

Adema3412 · 03-05-2007, 05:01 PM

What is there to teach?

9a0k7 · 03-05-2007, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MVPaintballer

You're walking a thin line on being disrespectful.

because hes stating his opinion?

ok.

GoldEaglev2 · 03-05-2007, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by elTwitcho

I hope it's never taught in school. School should focus on scientific theory, otherwise there isn't any method of discerning which "origin beliefs" (I don't consider creationism a theory) you teach and which you don't. If you teach that, why aren't you teaching the Hindu beliefs on the origin of the world? Or the NAtive American belief that the world is on the back of a turtle. Or the Zen Buddhist belief that it's all an illusion anyway.

Or that the Egyptian God masturbated and created the Egyptian gods

newber14 · 03-05-2007, 06:12 PM

nope. its those atheist people who cry that there daughter or son have to say the word God in the pledge and who are offended when people pray in school. what i dont get is why the 1 person who expresses their opinion about how they dont want their kid saying 2 words in the pledge gets their way (i know it hasnt happened but it might someday). that shouldnt happen. this country was based on religion and all we have done is taken away God from anything in this country.