[spyderman_xtra]

I am looking at buying a B2K4 for 100$ish is this a good deal, and has anybody had any problems with these guns?

[martix_agent]

if it's got PDS it's a decent deal.

There's a cult-liek following for them around this section. be careful because the slope is very slippery and steep

[spyderman_xtra]

I mean are they usable now? Like can I go play speedball and keep up with the rest.

[martix_agent]

absolutely. theyr'e jus ta bit big and bulky compared to the new stuff.

[MuthaFunk]

If you going to try to out-shoot a Halo or Rotor you might need to replace the stock HPR with something with a faster recharge rate. Other than that, they keep up just fine with the latest. I'd say the stock reg is consistient up to about 13 BPS.

[OSOK8541]

...and if you get a T2 kit, you'll get rid of that boxy look too. They are decent once they're upgraded and stuff.

[spyderman_xtra]

ehh I think I'll get the quest instead.....
lol I already have an old school gun classic timmy, but if anyone wants it I'll tell you who has it. just Pm me.

[Crash1976]

good...stick to your Timmy...means we'll have one less person to fight with for a T2...

J/K...good luck with your search..

[pump]

there is always DIY trayless B2Ks
also the 05 06 ego noid uses the same hole pattern so you might be able to use that manifold for the project

[OmegaSimmons]

I never had problems with the Bushy I had, and the extra weight isn't that bad. Hell, thats why I bought another one a few days ago, just like my old one.

[Crash1976]

honestly, the tray wich is where most of the extra bulk comes from, really carries very little weight...as it's hollow :/

loosing the tray or doing a trayless mod just reduces the profile height...not much loss in weight.

[pump]

it also make the center of gravity closer to your hand, which makes the gun feel lighter