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02-03-2013, 08:58 PM
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Empire > Dye
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: 808
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HPA tanks: 3000psi vs 4500
I want to get a HPA tank but how much heavier is a 4500 than a 3000? I'm just going to get an aluminium tank though I'm not rich enough to buy a carbon fiber one.
P.S. the place I play at has unlimited HPA. If air availability is a factor
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02-03-2013, 09:04 PM
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I like Flexes
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The tank material is what makes it heavy, not the psi. Aluminum is heavy. And you can buy a cheap used carbon fiber tank on here for the price of a brand new aluminum tank.
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02-03-2013, 09:13 PM
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Empire > Dye
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: 808
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Thanks a lot!
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02-03-2013, 09:33 PM
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I like Flexes
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No prob!
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02-04-2013, 12:19 AM
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The two numbers are volume and pressure. so a 30, 3000 has 30 cubic inches of internal volume and can store air at 3000 psi (pounds per square inch) so a 30, 4500 is the same size but can store more air because it is at a higher pressure. a 4500 tank will typically be lighter because it is made of carbon fiber vs the 3000 tanks which are usually aluminum
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02-04-2013, 12:55 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: California
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Definitely invest in a used carbon fiber tank. Check the BST out and make sure the tank has some life left before it needs to be rehydroed. If you can, make sure it has a 5 year hydro date, as opposed to a 3 year.
I didn't think a CF would make a huge difference, but it really does. Used my steel tank gets annoying now.
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02-04-2013, 06:38 PM
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what is it to you?
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Berlin NJ
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Yeah for sure get a CF of some sort. Ninja is the best
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02-04-2013, 09:12 PM
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4500 are lighter believe it or not. ALOT lighter
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02-07-2013, 09:08 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Saratoga, NY
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4500 are lighter and better but 3x $$$ compaired to a 3000 tank.
If you are just starting out and play more woodsball, then a 3000 tank is plenty till you get your feet wet. But, if you have the $$$ GET the 4500 tank right off the bat, they are lighter and more air which means being able to shoot more paint and stay on the field longer.
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02-07-2013, 09:41 PM
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I like Flexes
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CamoFish
4500 are lighter and better but 3x $$$ compaired to a 3000 tank.
If you are just starting out and play more woodsball, then a 3000 tank is plenty till you get your feet wet. But, if you have the $$$ GET the 4500 tank right off the bat, they are lighter and more air which means being able to shoot more paint and stay on the field longer.
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You can get a used carbon fiber 4500 for the price of a brand new 3000 psi steely...
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02-07-2013, 09:48 PM
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Empire > Dye
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: 808
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Alright guys thanks for the help, that's enough
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02-08-2013, 12:28 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Saratoga, NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dps093
You can get a used carbon fiber 4500 for the price of a brand new 3000 psi steely...
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where can I get a used 4500 for 50 bucks??? that has atleast 3-4 years left on a hydro?
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02-08-2013, 01:18 AM
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Atlanta Overdose
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Alpharetta GA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CamoFish
where can I get a used 4500 for 50 bucks??? that has atleast 3-4 years left on a hydro?
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BST will always have a steal or 2
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02-08-2013, 06:04 AM
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Not Lazy........ Just Fat
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Monmouth County NJ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CamoFish
where can I get a used 4500 for 50 bucks??? that has atleast 3-4 years left on a hydro?
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Just find one that looks well cared for and is old as hell. Old crossfires are good. Pick it up for $30 and send it to Ninja. For $50 you get a re-hydro and a brand new Ninja regulator for it. Can't beat that!
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02-08-2013, 07:49 AM
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What's a 12ie?
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Port Orchard, WA
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According to the scuba shop that hydros old tanks for me, carbon air tanks have a 15 year lifespan max. Don't buy anything too old. There is a lot of misinformation about tanks out there, especially from sellers, so research carefully.
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02-08-2013, 09:58 AM
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I like Flexes
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldandsneaky
According to the scuba shop that hydros old tanks for me, carbon air tanks have a 15 year lifespan max. Don't buy anything too old. There is a lot of misinformation about tanks out there, especially from sellers, so research carefully.
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Most of us already knew that lol
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02-08-2013, 05:27 PM
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WAKA WAKA
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Great White North
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Why use big words to tell a newbie about tank specs and terminology when you can confuse them more?
There are two tanks in my opinion (brand new that is)
1) CHEAP Tanks....(3000)Heavy, Less shots per cubic inch
2) EXPENSIVE Tanks....(4500)Light, More shots per cubic inch
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02-10-2013, 06:47 AM
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What's a 12ie?
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Port Orchard, WA
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[quote=Sirriko;78021500]Why use big words to tell a newbie about tank specs and terminology when you can confuse them more?
Everybody seemed to be steering him to carbon tanks, and I was just trying to make him a smarter buyer.
When a "newbie" asks for advice, I think that using the proper terminology would be less confusing in the long run.
BTW, nobody, (including myself), actually answered the original poster's question.
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02-12-2013, 11:42 AM
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WAKA WAKA
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Great White North
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[quote=Oldandsneaky;78033059]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirriko
Why use big words to tell a newbie about tank specs and terminology when you can confuse them more?
Everybody seemed to be steering him to carbon tanks, and I was just trying to make him a smarter buyer.
When a "newbie" asks for advice, I think that using the proper terminology would be less confusing in the long run.
BTW, nobody, (including myself), actually answered the original poster's question.
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He was asking about the weight.
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02-12-2013, 04:02 PM
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Don't eat that....
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Lynn, AR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirriko
Why use big words to tell a newbie about tank specs and terminology when you can confuse them more?
There are two tanks in my opinion (brand new that is)
1) CHEAP Tanks....(3000)Heavy, Less shots per cubic inch
2) EXPENSIVE Tanks....(4500)Light, More shots per cubic inch
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would have made a better point to have said:
1) cheap tanks:....small shot count, heavy. youll get tired of it soon. no one wants to buy it either cause they're in the same boat. waste of $50.
2) expensive tanks:....lighter, hold more air, go longer before needing to be hydro'd. much more comfortable to use. plus you can sell it for $120 out of the $160 you paid for it after a couple years if you decide to get rid of it.
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02-13-2013, 08:45 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Winston Salem, NC
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Try using buying a used tank so save some money and pain on your shoulder from that aluminium tank.
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