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Originally Posted by Nick Brockdorff
Anyone in here who thinks they were shooting hot on purpose is a retard, unless they can say with any degree of certainty, that the Tontons had means of turning the velocity back down during games.
On that topic:
1. No board in existence can adjust velocity 50+ FPS
2. Despite footage from the game being scrutinized extensively, nobody has seen any actions indicating they were fiddling around with their regulators
3. No refs or officials has made any indication that tools were found or regulators were found to have be altered.
So, if you agree to these simple facts.... why on earth would you think any team would enter the field knowingly shooting hot, when teams are chronographed regularly, both walking onto the field, during games and at flag hangs?
The reward does not merit the risk - especially when you are a team that is - arguably - the best in the division, and would not need to resort to cheating to win.
I believe the PSP has simply felt the need to make an example out of this case, for safety and insurance purposes..... but anyone thinking the Tontons shot hot on purpose, is just showing a lack of understanding of the game at the highest level.
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Nick --
I have no idea how anyone else in the world would think a team entered the field knowing they were shooting hot. But I think the Tontons player entered the field knowing they were shooting hot because I spoke with the Tontons player and who said they entered the field knowing they were shooting hot.
So I am someone who agrees with your 3 points and also thinks they entered the field knowing their guns were hot. And I doubt there is any question that I understand the game at the very highest level.
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Originally Posted by Nokia6618
As for how, maybe because i talked to the involved player (snip)..., and asked what happened and why it happened..
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Me too. Apparently one of us heard what he wanted to hear from his favorite team. Or maybe the player you talked to lied to you. Or maybe they lied to me and wanted to be punished for something they didn't do. Or maybe, I'm lying about what they told me. Of those possibilities, only one seems to have any possibility of reasonable motive.
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Originally Posted by Nokia6618
But i am happy to know that you know pro paintball beter then i do.. If ever you come to europe, remind me to invite to my millenium webcast, so that you can teach me..
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And if you'd ever introduced yourself to me at one of the 60+ International Professional events I've run, or the 20 plus professional world wide webcasts I've produced, or any of the hundred or so pro tournaments I've played in, you could have introduced yourself to me so that you could teach me...
Condescending psycho babble that's obviously hiding blind patriotism isn't a very good way of getting your points across. Just sayin'.
The regs were screwed up. They knew their regs were screwed up. Instead of having them changed, they chose to shoot clearing shots whereas to not be caught before the point started. They knew that after 3 or 4 shots they would be at or under the limit. They knew that if chonoed during a game while shooting they'd be at or under the limit.
I do not believe they had any intention of gaining a playing advantage. I believe they (negligently) felt the safety risk was marginal as once the started rolling the gun, and based on their intentions of continuing to shoot the guns during the match, the velocity would continue to stay at acceptable levels. That's doesn't mean that I'm OK with the thought process. But, it is my opinion that they wrongly felt like their understanding that only the first few shots being hot somehow negated the dangers of their decision.
I, unlike some others, do not think having the first 3 or 4 shots shooting at high and very inconsistent speeds is an tactical advantage. I also cannot understand why anyone with any sense would risk the penalty to have such a short lived, debatable at best, "advantage". I have talked with a lot of people who's opinions I respect and some of them disagree with my position on the advantages. But, in the end, my opinion is the one that matters. I've earned that position.
I know from the conversation with the players that they took the field with guns that they knew were outside of the limits. It is dangerous. It is arrogant. And it is unacceptable behavior from any team - much less a professional team with 20+ years of experience.
They broke the rules. They have been punished. I believe the punishment fits the circumstance and sincerely believe they've learned a lesson. If that proves to be a wrong belief and they are caught taking the field with guns in excess of the limits, regardless of the cause, regardless of their nationality, regardless of their sponsors, regardless of the opinion of Millennium webcast announcers, brilliant yet modest Danes, anonymous 15 year old forum posters, and/or Baca Loco, they will be permanently removed from PSP events.
Tonton's are a VERY good paintball team. They made mistakes in judgement and are paying the price. They'll come back better and stronger. PSP is one of the very few entities in all of the sport that is growing. Good people work for this company. The people here aren't always right. But we put the time in to try to get as much right as possible. And based on our recent track record, we seem to be doing a pretty good job of it.
It happened. It's been dealt with justly. It's over. Let it go. Go bash Obama, SEC Football, or Miley Cyrus. Hate on the things that don't really matter. But stop jumping at the opportunity to tear down the thing we all love. It's dumb.
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