Lotto winner on welfare

BodyCount81 · 10-01-2012, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Umami

Do you honestly think that before using drugs, people stop and think to themselves "oh, it's okay if I become an addict because I can go on welfare/food stamps/whateverelse"?

DGAF what they think before doing meth, cocaine, popping pills or any other hard drug. It shouldn't be my problem if someone chooses to waste their money, time, and life on something like that.

AlphaNeo36 · 10-01-2012, 11:16 PM

It isn't your problem.

Iamamartianchurch · 10-02-2012, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Tin-Man

The world must be ending,I fully agree with this

We desperately need to treat adults like adults. Ultimately everyone is responsible for their own lives and the consequences of their actions. We have to accept that people will fail, people will use drugs, and people will end up in poverty. At some point we need to stop focusing on every negative. What gets people out of bad situations is healthy ideals and determination. No amount of money or education is going to be sufficient without those. Hence the dysmal failure of the Great Society ideology.

rnauman821 · 10-02-2012, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Overbear

Because at the end of the day it is not about that one person, but a general problem on a much bigger scale.

This is why I have over time become more vocal about a end to welfare as we know it. It needs to be revamped, perhaps set limits such as 3-4 years total for life, job hunting requirements, and so on.

Faulty generalization.

The one particular lady wearing a red blouse is a whore, however not all women who wear red blouses are whores.

Overbear · 10-02-2012, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rnauman821

Faulty generalization.

The one particular lady wearing a red blouse is a whore, however not all women who wear red blouses are whores.

As I have said before, I am a self made man, I have never taken help and never will.

Anyone who does, is lazy IMHO.

TheSilentAssassin · 10-02-2012, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Overbear

As I have said before, I am a self made man, I have never taken help and never will.

Anyone who does, is lazy IMHO.

So you don't drive on roads? Someone else paid for those you know. A self made man like yourself wouldn't want to rely on other people's infrastructure.

Overbear · 10-02-2012, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSilentAssassin

So you don't drive on roads? Someone else paid for those you know. A self made man like yourself wouldn't want to rely on other people's infrastructure.

Ah but I pay taxes with my hard earned dollars for the privliage to drive on said roads. Can the lazy good for nothing slobs on welfare (and I mark a difference betwene them, and the good hard working folks who happen to be down on their luck for a few months) say the same?...No.

I know well your stance on this, everyone should have the right to a roof over their heads and so on...bull****. If you don't work for it, then no, you don't deserve such given to you off the backs of people who do work for it. (again we see a differnce here betwene handcaped folks and able body folks, if you can work, and don't, your lazy)

TheSilentAssassin · 10-02-2012, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Overbear

Ah but I pay taxes with my hard earned dollars for the privliage to drive on said roads. Can the lazy good for nothing slobs on welfare (and I mark a difference betwene them, and the good hard working folks who happen to be down on their luck for a few months) say the same?...No.

I know well your stance on this, everyone should have the right to a roof over their heads and so on...bull****. If you don't work for it, then no, you don't deserve such given to you off the backs of people who do work for it. (again we see a differnce here betwene handcaped folks and able body folks, if you can work, and don't, your lazy)

"work together to build a public road" =/= "self made man"

No man is an island.

drgonzo · 10-02-2012, 04:52 PM

Not to mention how the Internet came to be, which allows such ignorance to spew out far and wide.

barrel roll · 10-02-2012, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by drgonzo

Not to mention how the Internet came to be, which allows such ignorance to spew out far and wide.

Al Gore?

rnauman821 · 10-02-2012, 09:01 PM

Correct!

ladd_17 · 10-15-2012, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Umami

Do you honestly think that before using drugs, people stop and think to themselves "oh, it's okay if I become an addict because I can go on welfare/food stamps/whateverelse"?

I don't think they even stop to consider any consequences because we've grown up in a society where everything works out, and no one is accountable for their decisions. They don't have to stop and think to themselves "oh, it's okay if I become an addict because I can go on welfare/food stamps/whateverelse" because they already know it to be true... it doesn't even cross their minds.

drgonzo · 10-15-2012, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ladd_17

I don't think they even stop to consider any consequences because we've grown up in a society where everything works out, and no one is accountable for their decisions. They don't have to stop and think to themselves "oh, it's okay if I become an addict because I can go on welfare/food stamps/whateverelse" because they already know it to be true... it doesn't even cross their minds.

You think everything works out in America?

ladd_17 · 10-15-2012, 03:34 PM

I'm not naive enough to think everything works out in America, that's why I harp on personal responsibility so much. However, we live in a society where there are safety nets for everything, you almost have to try to truly fail beyond recovery. As such, we've got a large percentage of the younger people here who don't grasp the gravity of everyday decisions and assume that everything will work out because someone has always been there to take care of them.

licence2kill · 10-15-2012, 04:05 PM

When did the right become obsessed with inflicting pain on others?

custar · 10-15-2012, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by licence2kill

When did the right become obsessed with inflicting pain on others?

Never.

custar

drgonzo · 10-16-2012, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by licence2kill

When did the right become obsessed with inflicting pain on others?

I'd say it coincided with the rise of media/communications and in particular the internet. When it was no longer possible to control information, they knew that their brand of politics' days were numbered in a democratic society, because their brand has always served the few at the expense of the many.

So being unable to control the masses, it became important to disenfranchise voting blocs, weaken people economically, and ruthlessly preserve their own resources.