[Overbear]

Originally Posted by RamboPreacher

maybe you should.
evidences can lead one to draw conclusions that may be understood as "proof", but only to the one that draws the conclusions using other methods as well.

Ok, RP...the big point here is there is ZERO evidence to draw conclusion that there is a god, that jesus existed as the son of god, or that the bible is real. Whereas there is tons of evidence of science and history...

So by your own logic, because there is NO evidence, then an item is absolutely false.

[RamboPreacher]

Originally Posted by Overbear

Ok, RP...the big point here is there is ZERO evidence to draw conclusion that there is a god, that jesus existed as the son of god, or that the bible is real. Whereas there is tons of evidence of science and history...

So by your own logic, because there is NO evidence, then an item is absolutely false.

I disagree. we have evidences, but as the apparent norm, folks like you have completely dismissed them. as I have said previously, at least I don't completely dismiss the evidences given on the other side. I may not agree with them, but I do not completely dismiss them as non-evidence.

[Overbear]

Originally Posted by RamboPreacher

I disagree. we have evidences, but as the apparent norm, folks like you have completely dismissed them. as I have said previously, at least I don't completely dismiss the evidences given on the other side. I may not agree with them, but I do not completely dismiss them as non-evidence.

well, what evidences do you have? I mean, last time I checked there was no proof of a worldwide flood, no evidence of a talking burning bush, no evidence the red sea ever parted, none what so ever some dude walked on water or cured the blind. You understand what I am saying here RP, to use a very crude example...

if one poops in one hand, and prays in the other, what one is going to fill up first, know what I am saying?

[Believer]

Originally Posted by Overbear

well, what evidences do you have? I mean, last time I checked there was no proof of a worldwide flood, no evidence of a talking burning bush, no evidence the red sea ever parted, none what so ever some dude walked on water or cured the blind. You understand what I am saying here RP, to use a very crude example...

if one poops in one hand, and prays in the other, what one is going to fill up first, know what I am saying?

that was probably the most disrespectful thing ive read on ST:R

[cryptic.paintball]

Originally Posted by Believer

that was probably the most disrespectful thing ive read on ST:R

So why when a religious person does the same thing you do not say anything?

[Overbear]

Originally Posted by Believer

that was probably the most disrespectful thing ive read on ST:R

It was not ment in any way disrespectful, it was a retorical question, I am sure RP is quite intelgent enough to understand what I ment.

[ray77]

im not scarred to lay in teh ground n rot

[Believer]

because ive only seen little of this thread, i just discussed death with someone and thats pretty much it, then this progressed and i felt i had to say something

Had i seen a religious persons unorthodox statesments against anyone even if he be an atheist i would have said something

I dont hate atheists or Christians i hate disrespect

[m3s0h0rn7]

Originally Posted by Magic.

youre kidding right?


it appears we have another severe case of schizophrenia ladies and gentlemen.

I went away to see an old friend of mine
His sister came over she was out of her mind
She said jesus had a twin who knew nothing about sin
She was laughing like crazy at the trouble Im in
Her light eyes were dancing she is insane
Her brother says shes just a ***** with a golden chain
She keeps coming closer saying I can feel it in my bones
Schizophrenia is taking me home

-Sonic Youth

I SOLD my soul for rock and roll...

[cryptic.paintball]

Originally Posted by Believer

because ive only seen little of this thread, i just discussed death with someone and thats pretty much it, then this progressed and i felt i had to say something

Had i seen a religious persons unorthodox statesments against anyone even if he be an atheist i would have said something

I dont hate atheists or Christians i hate disrespect

Questioning stories of the bible are not disrespectful at all. They should be questioned.

[Mastermind26]

Originally Posted by cryptic.paintball

Questioning stories of the bible are not disrespectful at all. They should be questioned.

CP is correct, but we all know OB is not about questioning the Bible as much as he is for making fun of and hating ANYTHING that has to do with religion (especially relating to gays and acceptance). He has said time and time again of contempt for christians and religion.

[890SHAWN]

If you say there is no God, you make yourself your god.
Where's your missing link in evolution?
Give me your proof.

[warbeak2099]

Originally Posted by 890SHAWN

If you say there is no God, you make yourself your god.
Where's your missing link in evolution?
Give me your proof.

Give us yours. You made a statement and claimed it to be indesputable fact. The burden of proof lies on you. This thread is not about evolution. It is about people's views on their stance with Heaven.

I believe I'm going to Heaven and it's going to be whatever I damn want it to be. I'll be able to throw kicking parties and have as much sex with my gf (will be wife) as we want. Free booze, free paint and air, free exotic cars, and 100% awesomeness. And guess what, Mormons and other religious extremos can't come. Why? Cause I get to make the rules in my Heaven.

Others here think it would be cool to go to Hell and fight with Satan's army. It actually does sound pretty action packed, but I'm more into kicking back and relaxing for eternity. My private army of robo cops and terminators will handle any intruders. Who says you are right though? Why are our views any less viable possibilities of Heaven than yours? It's all conjecture and speculation with absolutely no proof or even evidence to back it up. At least mine is colorful and imaginative. The whole angels with harps bit is so last millenium.

[Topazbullet]

Originally Posted by 890SHAWN

If you say there is no God, you make yourself your god.
Where's your missing link in evolution?
Give me your proof.

Being looked for. That's why it's a theory still; lots of evidence, still a couple holes.

If you claim that your God is truth, YOU have to provide proof

[citywokchinefoo]

This thread lacks a "Rot in Grave/Sit in urn" Selection.

[paintballonaim (Banned)]

Originally Posted by Overbear

because all the good people will be in hell, all my friends, my loved ones, all the hindu and budests. Hell is going to be one big party.

"Heaven for the weather, Hell for the company", huh?

Originally Posted by cryptic.paintball

Actually heaven sounds dull. Why would you want to be a slave to an egomaniac? Don't think for yourself if you go to heaven, or else you will be cast out.

I think for my self and hopefully I'll be going to heaven... What does thinking for yourself have to do with heaven? Or wait, let me guess, that was a stereo-typical cheap shot used by you to say that all Christians do exactly as they are told and cannot think for themselves. Is that it? I mean, I won't shoot back with the fact that no matter what you do in life, you're still doing as you're told...

[Magic.]

Originally Posted by RamboPreacher

maybe you should.

no, YOU are!

neener neener neener.

[Sankarihauta]

I'm not ready to die, but I'm pretty sure if heaven existed, I'd be there.

edit: You guys are all talking about heaven and hell and which is better to go to anyway, so I don't really know what to say.

I'm not ready to die, but I'm a good person.

[I love Impulses]

I would be watching the end of the world from my porch smoking a cigar and drinking scotch while wearing a tuxedo. Of all I have learned in the Church I never heard that the devil could control thought. It is god's will that humans be given the ability to independently cognitively process. Who is to say that I wouldn't meditate in hell? Or... who is to say we wouldn't mobilize and take the spikey bastard down? If anything... the rapture would be too much for a "hell" to handle.

[welfare_train (Banned)]

Originally Posted by 890SHAWN

If you say there is no God, you make yourself your god.
Where's your missing link in evolution?
Give me your proof.

**** stain you are an ****ing idiot.


So I am a god now because I don't believe in god? That makes no ****ing sense. You need to stop sleeping with your bible.

[Thundercracker]

Originally Posted by welfare_train

**** stain you are an ****ing idiot.


So I am a god now because I don't believe in god? That makes no ****ing sense. You need to stop sleeping with your bible.

What he is saying is that people often become thier own God's. Example anytime you put your own ______________ before God. I didn't go to Church because I played paintball.....