[insixdays777]

Well Guys I just traded my Alien for a Creed. I have been wanting to try one for a while now. The Creed came in with a leaking valve/poppet.

A quick PM and paypal to SHOOTNPOO and an LP poppet and valve made it from CA to IOWA in 2 days You guys have the service side of things nailed down!

The guns is very nice. It shoots great. Mine gets excellent efficiency. It is a very smooth poppet.

I love the board and the rechargeable battery. The grips are also very very nice, super squishy in all the right places.

The cartridge HP regulator is genius. I am overall impressed with the gun.

The only thing I could want is a bolt with detent groves in it. There is noticeable resistance when the bolt begins contact with the detents. I would imagine it would allow for a slightly lower LPR pressure if this was not the case.

VANGUARD You have yourselves an awesome marker. Keep it up.

[SHOOTNPOO]

Now give pros and cons of the V's of the 2 markers please.

Eric

[insixdays777]

Not sure what you want or mean...Pro and Cons between the Alien 09i ND and the CREED?

Both markers are shoot great. I cant really say anything bad about either. The differences are personal preference.

1) The Alien feedneck is to low, I love low feednecks but is was so low I could not use my pinokio loader on it.

2) I like the Alien trigger better than the Creeds. Creed has a break away magnet trigger which I am not a huge fan.

3) I like the Creeds board much better than the Alien's but that is not really fair as you are comparing an OLED to an LED.

4) I prefer the Creeds spring loaded detents. Just wish the bolt was grooved for them.

5)I prefer the looks of the Alien. I think the milling design on the Alien just looks better. Quality of milling seemed on par between both.

Both shoot equally as smooth. Both Companies should be proud of their product. The only pros and cons I can see are all strictly personal preference in regards to minor details.

I am looking forward to seeing vanguards spool.

As far as VALUE. The Creed is the best VALUE for what you get in my opinion. It is also cheaper new than Aliens 2010t and comes with more stuff.

[L_x]

Nice little review, glad you like it.

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