[smartpartz_kid]

Originally Posted by ngerardi315

yea i do, what does it matter + we are all getting the vapors

saw a viper shooting a vapor at cfps 2 and it was messing up. not sure what was wrong with it and the guns look awesome though.

[TheHef]

Looks slick in person

[TheHef]

Originally Posted by ngerardi315

yea i do, what does it matter + we are all getting the vapors

Haha nice

[papaintballer15]

spurlocks guns have a history of messing up

[juggernaut326]

Originally Posted by DooPA

Looks nice on the field. Did we get a MSRP for this yet?

1500 is what I heard

Originally Posted by lilmatt87

Do you think a DYE sponsored team player would do something that dumb?

Their D4/D5 lines had one to demo.

[Umami]

Originally Posted by 98Pro

Instead of having a can at the front they simply made the can the body. Ingenious to say the least.

I normally wouldn't bother, but I'm a little drunk so here ya go:

Spool-valved markers that don't use a separate can:
Dye Matrix
G3/4/Threshy
Ion
Rail
Freestyle!!!
Droid/Clone


No doubt I'm forgetting something but you get the idea. And without accounting for about 10 other factors, operating pressure doesn't mean ****.

[juggernaut326]

Originally Posted by Umami

I normally wouldn't bother, but I'm a little drunk so here ya go:

Spool-valved markers that don't use a separate can:
Dye Matrix
G3/4/Threshy
Ion
Rail
Freestyle!!!
Droid/Clone


No doubt I'm forgetting something but you get the idea. And without accounting for about 10 other factors, operating pressure doesn't mean ****.

Quest too

[papaintballer15]

does nova count also? technically it didnt have a can bc the entire bolt was basically a can. also the size of a spray paint can

[TheNordicBuffadillo]

I like the green one the best. But I still think this gun is ugly as sin...

[PBninja8]

saw and held this gun at HB today feels a little like a luxe in the hands and the price tag i was told was 1650

[Paint_hore]

Originally Posted by lilmatt87

Do you think a DYE sponsored team player would do something that dumb?

Considering the PBV guys are dumping dm12's on the forums Id guess that they are changing sponsorships, so why would they care?

[WarpedGreg]

get to use one this weekend

[98Pro]

Originally Posted by Umami

I normally wouldn't bother, but I'm a little drunk so here ya go:

Spool-valved markers that don't use a separate can:
Dye Matrix
G3/4/Threshy
Ion
Rail
Freestyle!!!
Droid/Clone

No doubt I'm forgetting something but you get the idea. And without accounting for about 10 other factors, operating pressure doesn't mean ****.

Obviously you are dunk because I did state that pressure isn't. Also... None of those are the same... This has absolutely nothing up front. So it's pure air volume. So this thing should shoot better than a luxe being basically a luxe with an extra low pressure can.

[Umami]

Originally Posted by 98Pro

Obviously you are dunk because I did state that pressure isn't. Also... None of those are the same... This has absolutely nothing up front. So it's pure air volume. So this thing should shoot better than a luxe being basically a luxe with an extra low pressure can.

I thought you said pressure doesn't matter?

Look, knowing what I know about shocker based bolt kits (it's an embarassingly large amount), unless they've significantly changed the way the bolt operates from either a Shocker, Luxe or Demon (blow forward luxe), the only thing you're going to get out of a larger volume and lower operating pressure is worse efficiency.

Beyond that, with a wall thickness of .05" (that guess is probably high) they're gaining less than .25 cubic inches over a stock '03 shocker. And with the can in the luxe 2.0 bolt kit being open on the sides, they're probably gaining less than .05 cubic inches over that. Nothing to write home about.

Beyond all that, I find the area behind the FRM to be ugly as sin. Why all the extra metal?

I have to say, I don't see what the $1400-1650 is buying you.

[doenertier81]

Destroyed.

[disturbed989]

Originally Posted by beastmode986

I would probably choose this over a luxe

i'll reserve my judgment until it is a proven marker. but as of right now this is where i stand.

luxe 2.0 $1500
-proven design
-company that will stay around

vapor- 1600+
-unproven marker
-don't know how long this company is going to be around.


if i had this much cash to blow at the moment i would be going with the clone gt.

[szpaintballer]

Originally Posted by disturbed989

i'll reserve my judgment until it is a proven marker. but as of right now this is where i stand.

luxe 2.0 $1500
-proven design
-company that will stay around

vapor- 1600+
-unproven marker
-don't know how long this company is going to be around.

if i had this much cash to blow at the moment i would be going with the clone gt.

very true^^^

[gildy1]

Originally Posted by disturbed989

i'll reserve my judgment until it is a proven marker. but as of right now this is where i stand.

luxe 2.0 $1500
-proven design
-company that will stay around

vapor- 1600+
-unproven marker
-don't know how long this company is going to be around.


if i had this much cash to blow at the moment i would be going with the clone gt.

#1 comment in this thread

[jamest91]

i personally like the look of the Vapor. granted i wouldnt buy one for $1600, but if the price was cut in half I could give it a whirl.

[Brules]

You know just a few short months to a year ago, Luxe staying around was in doubt lol. Yes they seem to be in good shape now, but for a while when SP cratered it looked bad.

Just sayin.

[one2follow]

$799.99 sounds about right for the Vapor