[the other one]

Originally Posted by xxxarsonist

Why arent marines using m4s? arent those supposed to be standard across the board now, or are they to broke to get em?

I had an M4.

We use a mixture of M16A4's, M4's, SAWs..... and I guess a few people still have the A2, but we're phasing out everything old for new stuff. My unit has mostly all M4's now.


Slowly we're getting more and more M4's, but I doubt we'll ever really get rid of A4's completely.

[berserker19]

Originally Posted by paintballdude902

if you are fighting in the open shooting at 500 meter why would you want a carbine with a collapsable stock that is more likely to shift or have a wobbel which alters your npo(natural point of aim) or your cheek weld which will change your accuracy

Because when you are wearing body armor with SAPI plates, the standard buttstock is way too long to be useable, and there is no such thing as 'cheek weld' when you're shooting. Another thing.. in real combat most firefights are under 100m. I am a sniper and have never even fired a shot over 400 in the real world

[JackH (Banned)]

Originally Posted by berserker19

Because when you are wearing body armor with SAPI plates, the standard buttstock is way too long to be useable, and there is no such thing as 'cheek weld' when you're shooting. Another thing.. in real combat most firefights are under 100m. I am a sniper and have never even fired a shot over 400 in the real world

QFT.

Any combat I was in was in an urban setting, and like he said 100m is just where the **** hits the fan so to speak

[paintballdude902]

thats y i included the fact that i know open battle is becomming/ is a thing of the past

berserker what do you mean there is no such thing as a cheek weld?

[berserker19]

when you are wearing armor and a helmet, it is impossible to get a proper shooting position since you can't even possibly bend your head down low enough to tuck the stock between your shoulder and cheek. You just plant the stock against your shoulder and put your head behind the sights.

[paintballdude902]

oh i took it as period like with any rifle or any shooting condition

[BEAN93x]

sorry to ask but its just curiosity but,

what is actual REAL combat like?

[paintballdude902]

berserker you should look into a riser for the stock thats what both of my cousins used (served iraq, afganistan, and kosavo)

they actually duct taped a piece of something on the weapons to raise up the comb

[JackH (Banned)]

Originally Posted by BEAN93x

sorry to ask but its just curiosity but,

what is actual REAL combat like?

Confusing, loud, terrifying

[paintballdude902]

kinda like bein shot in general jack

ive never been in combat but i have been shot at 3-4 times while chasing poaschers and trespassers off my familys farm

[JackH (Banned)]

Originally Posted by paintballdude902

kinda like bein shot in general jack

ive never been in combat but i have been shot at 3-4 times while chasing poaschers and trespassers off my familys farm

basically

[Jonnyblaze1991]

Are you allowed to use your own personal weapon attachments or are they issued to you or what?

[JackH (Banned)]

Originally Posted by Jonnyblaze1991

Are you allowed to use your own personal weapon attachments or are they issued to you or what?

buy what you want, use what you want, but 8 million flashights and laser beams aren't going to make your bullet go any straighter

[Jonnyblaze1991]

Haha, I realize this. I just read the last page with the discussion about optics and it's all clear now.

[LostCause40]

Originally Posted by JackH

Only thing I would invest in if you're going to Iraq is a nice pair of shades and optics for your rifle

alright, thanks for the tip. i was looking at Wiley X's as shades. optics...that id have to look more into.

[hunter1234]

what do you all use for knives

[madizm]

Originally Posted by LostCause40

alright, thanks for the tip. i was looking at Wiley X's as shades. optics...that id have to look more into.

I like Oakley half jackets, and I believe alot of Army units are issuing either Oakleys or Wiley X's as shades.

[JackH (Banned)]

Originally Posted by hunter1234

what do you all use for knives

Standard Issue Marine Corps KBAR, Ya I know I'm in the Army

[madizm]

Originally Posted by hunter1234

what do you all use for knives

I only use a Gerber/Leatherman multi tool, when it comes down to it unless you encounter a hand-to-hand situation you're only gonna use your knife to open MRE's and food rations.

[LostCause40]

Originally Posted by madizm

I like Oakley half jackets, and I believe alot of Army units are issuing either Oakleys or Wiley X's as shades.

alright thanks man.

[JackH (Banned)]

Originally Posted by madizm

I only use a Gerber/Leatherman multi tool, when it comes down to it unless you encounter a hand-to-hand situation you're only gonna use your knife to open MRE's and food rations.

and even then thats rare in this day and age... then I realized the last bayonet charge was in Iraq.... crazy *** scottish