[big_scott]

Yea, engineer is a must with black hat. It's really fun to use on snipers who put bouncing betties and shock charges behind them. You can also hack UAVs with it, unless they patched that out.

[AlphaNeo36]

You can also grab care packages, friendly or enemy. I don't know if you can re-roll with engineer from a distance though. It's great because you can call a care package inside a building or outside the map and still get it.

[Drex17]

Originally Posted by big_scott

Yea, engineer is a must with black hat. It's really fun to use on snipers who put bouncing betties and shock charges behind them. You can also hack UAVs with it, unless they patched that out.

or when a group is holed up in the hardpoint wish shock charges and betties.

*black hat on shock charge*

*black hat on betty*

*laugh and run in guns blazing to clean up*

[Cmizzle]

Originally Posted by big_scott

Everyone complains about the knifing, but I actually like it. I **** it up as much as the next guy, but at least other people aren't lunging at me when they aren't even aiming at me. And yes I use black hat almost exclusively.

No way, the hit detection for the knife is retarded as ****. I raged quit earlier because I lunged through a dude who was laying prone sniping. I couldnt believe it

[big_scott]

Originally Posted by Cmizzle

No way, the hit detection for the knife is retarded as ****. I raged quit earlier because I lunged through a dude who was laying prone sniping. I couldnt believe it

Yea, I guess you have a point there, I have had similar things happen.

[komodo_117]

>Spend hours tormenting myself on campaign
>Beat game
>Game immediately freezes

Wow. **** this piece of ****.

[iRoNiQ]

Originally Posted by jogabonito7

Does anyone actually use black hat?

I've seen a lot of people use it.

Originally Posted by big_scott

Everyone complains about the knifing, but I actually like it. I **** it up as much as the next guy, but at least other people aren't lunging at me when they aren't even aiming at me. And yes I use black hat almost exclusively.

The knifing is soooo much better than the past few Call of Dutys. I'd be happy if they took it out of the game completely or at least required you to have your knife out in order to knife. There is nothing more frustrating than running around a corner and getting panic knifed by some idiot.

Originally Posted by big_scott

Yea, engineer is a must with black hat. It's really fun to use on snipers who put bouncing betties and shock charges behind them. You can also hack UAVs with it, unless they patched that out.

It's a good perk but I'd never use it over Dead Silence.

Originally Posted by komodo_117

>Spend hours tormenting myself on campaign
>Beat game
>Game immediately freezes

Wow. **** this piece of ****.

Wait until you play online...

[mrchuck234]

I can't believe how bad this game is. GameStop, here I come.

[They Call Me Rain]

The game itself isn't bad, but I'd like to discuss a couple things. (Sorry if they've already been discussed, I haven't read the whole thread).

Compared to MW3 (The game I have most recently played right before this game [The night before]), I feel like I'm always playing hardcore. I constantly get gunned down so quickly I really don't see the red blood splatter on my screen anymore. (Or as much as MW3.) Hardcore is crazy too imo.

I like both, but they definitely increased damage from weapons but not the players health? lol . The guns don't seem to have too much recoil either, and the higher the level you get, the more OP weapons you can get. (Which is generally how it works, sadly.)

For example: Yesterday, I somehow killed this dude who was using the Chicom (Spelling ?). I picked it up, and ran through the whole team multiple times without getting downed by ANYONE. Chicom + Suppressor I think it was. 3 shot burst, and the silencer made it ridiculous, but there might be better attachments; I only got to use that particular combo...

Tl;dr up to here; guns need some balancing imo.

Oh, and I'm not some noob who's complaining because he sucks.
I have a ~1.2 K/D which isn't bad imo; better than negative.

Sniper rifles seem to have some pretty crazy hit boxes on Xbox (from my experience). I felt like a dick getting all these insane shots on people...

One thing that I HATE is that the points you get after a kill/assist/etc are now a small little white number. I want the big yellow number back, like from MW3. [If there's a way to change that, does anyone know? [Xbox360]

Killstreaks are no more; now it's all point based which puts a new twist on the game. I like it, but now it isn't just say 9 kills for a good kill streak; it's 9 kills + assists/etc, you know? Plus, if you're playing kill confirmed and you aren't picking up tags you're only get 50 points per kill, and +25 if your teammate gets it for you.

I usually play Ground War.

If anyone else on here isn't part of the glorious master race (like me) then I'm down to play with you, even you aren't good . I'd rather have someone who I can communicate with effectively who isn't effective with combat than 9 idiots.

Gamertag: War Chipmunk

tl;dr - Game is okay. Some minor complaints but I will give it 8.5/10

[midman112]

We pooped on people repeatedly last night Aaron, you just have to get used to the maps and you'll be good.

[MutR.]

Originally Posted by They Call Me Rain

Killstreaks are no more; now it's all point based which puts a new twist on the game. I like it, but now it isn't just say 9 kills for a good kill streak; it's 9 kills + assists/etc, you know? Plus, if you're playing kill confirmed and you aren't picking up tags you're only get 50 points per kill, and +25 if your teammate gets it for you.

Nope. In stead of 9 kills, now its like 6 kills + a flag cap + some assists. Basically it evens itself out, not get harder.

[T0AD]

Gunna be on tonight for a while. Gamertag: EgretExpress.

Been using the Swat with select fire, grip and target finder and doing absolute work. I like the 3 round burst but i find it ineffective on most maps so i'm using select fire to put it into full auto almost exclusively.

Although i'm a big fan of the target finder i feel like a ***** when i use it so i've also been using Swauto with grip, silcencer, select fire. Liking that. Perfect for Drone.

Anyone else find the M27 to be absolute ****? Maybe i'm just awful with it i just find it to be very underpowered.

[midman112]

Anyone who uses the target finder, MMS, and or shock charges are ****ing terrible at this game and should feel terrible. If you require a sight that tells you when there is someone in your cross hairs you might as well just go back to GameStop and trade in this game because that is ****ing embarrassing. Every single year the developers cater more and more to the crappy players and its bull ****. If I'm better than you I should be able to beat you 8/10 times leaving those 2 times they win is up to luck.

[big_scott]

Originally Posted by midman112

Anyone who uses the target finder, MMS, and or shock charges are ****ing terrible at this game and should feel terrible. If you require a sight that tells you when there is someone in your cross hairs you might as well just go back to GameStop and trade in this game because that is ****ing embarrassing. Every single year the developers cater more and more to the crappy players and its bull ****. If I'm better than you I should be able to beat you 8/10 times leaving those 2 times they win is up to luck.

So you're saying because of those three items, you can't beat someone worse than you? Maybe you bad.

[midman112]

I don't recall saying I could not beat them. I do the majority of the time but that does not negate the fact that those things do nothing but encourage camping and cheapen the experience for everyone. I refuse to use any of those things because I know I am better than that. War Chipmunk had played with me on this game and battlefield he knows I'm not bad at either of these games.

[Mythslinger]

Hrm, this one seems to be the most anti-camping edition yet....

[big_scott]

Yea considering the MMS only works when the opponent isn't moving, it's not a great for camping. I've used it mainly because it's a red dot with a wider view.

[They Call Me Rain]

Originally Posted by midman112

I don't recall saying I could not beat them. I do the majority of the time but that does not negate the fact that those things do nothing but encourage camping and cheapen the experience for everyone. I refuse to use any of those things because I know I am better than that. War Chipmunk had played with me on this game and battlefield he knows I'm not bad at either of these games.

I'm on my iPod so I can't really see much more than your post but
Who are you lol. Pbnick or someone else? Sorry I can't see signatures or anything that would help me remember. I'm not on nation as much either anymore

But chances are that If we've gamed together you're good lol.

Doodoo'ing on people with the LSAT.

Hate the swat personally. Maybe my least favorite gun in the game ATM.

[big_scott]

Originally Posted by They Call Me Rain

I'm on my iPod so I can't really see much more than your post but
Who are you lol. Pbnick or someone else? Sorry I can't see signatures or anything that would help me remember. I'm not on nation as much either anymore

But chances are that If we've gamed together you're good lol.

Doodoo'ing on people with the LSAT.

Hate the swat personally. Maybe my least favorite gun in the game ATM.

SWAT is the only gun I actually got all the camo for. On full auto that thing is a monster.

[They Call Me Rain]

I just want the chicom

LSAT is like -2 awesome points from the death machine. It rips the **** out of very thing lol. Death machine isn't even OP I think it's fair

[midman112]

Originally Posted by They Call Me Rain

I'm on my iPod so I can't really see much more than your post but
Who are you lol. Pbnick or someone else? Sorry I can't see signatures or anything that would help me remember. I'm not on nation as much either anymore

But chances are that If we've gamed together you're good lol.

Doodoo'ing on people with the LSAT.

Hate the swat personally. Maybe my least favorite gun in the game ATM.

Haha it's PBplaya133, but we played hardpoint together last night for a while with a bunch of my friends and wrecked ****.