[I love Impulses]

Originally Posted by bhskins05

where did you get that number?I have trouble believing that they are capped at 8000. The video of them making paint is up here somewhere, and the paint is coming out rapidly. where did you get that number?

From people that have been involved in the industry, been around a million years, and posted on this topic a thousand times. It is the standard number for production as of now.

[I love Impulses]

Originally Posted by knuckles753

This is interesting, yet I honestly do not understand. Could you explain?

If a few Producers own the entire industry then they can be in collusion and keep their prices at a fixed level as to maximize their profits while keeping the other safe. As there are no other producers they can produce any product they want as it is the only choice. They can charge whatever price they want because they are the only producers.

When the market becomes extremely profitable then new companies will enter the industy and produce substitutes to the traditional companie's product. Prices go down and quality goes up as competition comes back into the market.

[Tom212]

Originally Posted by I love Impulses

If a few Producers own the entire industry then they can be in collusion and keep their prices at a fixed level as to maximize their profits while keeping the other safe. As there are no other producers they can produce any product they want as it is the only choice. They can charge whatever price they want because they are the only producers.

Yeah, that always happens, especially with the FTC, huh.

[AlphaNeo36]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...+playable:true

The video of how paintballs are made.

[knuckles753]

Well at 8000/hr paintballs would be made at about 2 1/5 balls/second. At the speed they were being encapsulated in the video, I can belive this figure. Seems hella slow though, compared to other types of machines. I mean, look at the almost ancient cotton gin. Seems like it's moving a lot faster than the wheels on the encapsulating machine. Last I heard, some company was on its way to creating balls at a cheaper price. Rumors can be rumors, though.

[TheCosmikShame]

Originally Posted by I love Impulses

It is all in consumption. People that use to pay high prices for paint and shoot little paint endured $150+ a case paint and did fine. Today these people are pump and stockers as they may shoot a bag a day. Costing them $8.75 for a day of $35/case paint. Their highest costs are in field fees, $10-$25 and they do fine and can play often.

As it stands now encapsulating machines are limited to 8000 paintballs in one hour. So this machine, an encapsulating machine
costs: $5k-10k a unit perhaps. This machine is pumping out cases at 4/hr. At 8hours a day, 5 days a week the machine pumps out 160 cases in perfect working conditions. This case is then sold to stores/suppliers at prices depending on the order, but say $25 a case. The $25 number comes as the manufacturer makes profit and fulfills its cost.
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and remember not every paintball is manufactured without flaws. but I aslo think with techknowledgy today the machines have much much higher numbers of production

[snowpainter420]

You can't play paintball without paint so companies can charge what ever the consumer is willing to pay. People are willing to pay $50 a case so why sell at a lower cost? I'll have to admit though $70 just for a day of paintball is a little expensive but what ever. At least the price of gear has gone down.

[bonusballz00]

its a good thing cause it opens the sport up to people who generally couldnt affored it before. more people to paintball

[knuckles753]

Originally Posted by TheCosmikShame

and remember not every paintball is manufactured without flaws. but I aslo think with techknowledgy today the machines have much much higher numbers of production

I believe he stated "as it stands now", meaning that that is a current encapsulating machine. And sorry but..."technology."

[Wenuliveudie]

You can get your gear made in Taiwan, but not your paint. Draxxus' encapsulating machines are much larger and much more epxensive than the picture shown on the previous page.

Yes, I know there is one company that produces paint overseas, but those are just horrid.

[biGss]

Originally Posted by yoyoma

paint prices still need to come down to get more people into the game

that may be true, but paint is were most fields are making their money... most fields can get their paint for $25-35 depending on who your supplier is. if you mark it up to $60 thats what... $25-35 profit... many proshops/fields are struggling due to online sellers, so they have to make their money somewhere, and guess what, that somewhere is paint...

[Spinal]

Originally Posted by bhskins05

where did you get that number?I have trouble believing that they are capped at 8000. The video of them making paint is up here somewhere, and the paint is coming out rapidly. where did you get that number?

they need a ramping chip lol.


i wasn't sure about how the guns weren't over 1000 and i looked on actionvillage its basically true. the empire timmy is just over 1k...the dm6 is also. the only gun thats a way up there is the xsv ego at 1900.

[#1paintballer]

At my paintball store they have some okay paint for $27 a case. It isn't the best but brakes on impact and not the gun.

[I love Impulses]

Originally Posted by Wenuliveudie

You can get your gear made in Taiwan, but not your paint. Draxxus' encapsulating machines are much larger and much more epxensive than the picture shown on the previous page.

Yes, I know there is one company that produces paint overseas, but those are just horrid.

Come on the Chinese paint is going to take over!

[TheCosmikShame]

Originally Posted by knuckles753

I believe he stated "as it stands now", meaning that that is a current encapsulating machine. And sorry but..."technology."

no need for the sorry, my mistake and ignorance