[alfredg]

Well, I'm definantly on boat and line for the eigen. I don't want to upgrade my HE to anything else but.. On a side note, I do see that pooty has a veary interesting bolt guide. The NDZ low pressure guide. Does anyone have any theories if the eigen would benefit from it? Considering that it is hollow, it seems to provide much more volume than any shaved firing can could provide.
http://www.pootypaintball.com/index....&product_id=94

[Japy]

Lol let's just stop discussing Pooty stuff in Lurker threads please.. At least until tomorrow... At the Fish Fry

[inmylife2415]

No msg on my fish...my girlfriend can't have it, it will kill her.

[jim4130]

Lol

[Gisgo09]

Originally Posted by Umami

Haha thanks man. To be honest they're really constraints in the Shocker platform, I don't really know how I'd get around them and I don't think they'll make the Eigen any less impressive. Every design for anything ever made has its drawbacks.

If I had the money or time I'd love to completely overhaul the entire shocker engine (but then you might as well just make a new gun). On that note I think YDNA and the guys at Thin Air may be on the verge of releasing something I've been rolling around in my head for 6 years, so I'm really excited to see what they've come up with.

Originally Posted by Umami

Well I don't think he's claiming the flat face as his, but yeah. His business model seems to be catch every current fad and throw them together into one product, without paying attention to whether or not they actually help.

Thanks

Oh he has. I can't blame him for his model. It's been relatively successful for him. It's just not my way of doing things. I didn't insist on calling it the Gisgo spring mod. I turned down having my name involved in the Eigen bolt and I think the Techt bolt(don't quote me on that one though). It's not even that he uses his name in the product, it's that when people give him credit for creating these mods, I've never seen him say well it was being done long before I started doing it. How many people shaved down their Spyder or Timmy bolts and added o-rings to them to reduce weight, friction and decrease air loss long before Pooty ever existed.

[seanr]

Originally Posted by Gisgo09

Oh he has. I can't blame him for his model. It's been relatively successful for him. It's just not my way of doing things. I didn't insist on calling it the Gisgo spring mod. I turned down having my name involved in the Eigen bolt and I think the Techt bolt(don't quote me on that one though). It's not even that he uses his name in the product, it's that when people give him credit for creating these mods, I've never seen him say well it was being done long before I started doing it. How many people shaved down their Spyder or Timmy bolts and added o-rings to them to reduce weight, friction and decrease air loss long before Pooty ever existed.

[godraep]

$125 for a "pooty SFT bolt assembly"


I paid $125 for 1.5 SFT shockers..

[jim4130]

Yeah man his prices are insane

[Japy]

When I said wait til tomorrow I didn't mean it literally.. I meant wait for eigen tomorrow you clowns. >_<

[smartballer91]

lol

[war009]

Up to 2 or 3 more required....

[jim4130]

Originally Posted by Japy

When I said wait til tomorrow I didn't mean it literally.. I meant wait for eigen tomorrow you clowns. >_<

We knew. We just didnt listen

[war009]

Lol nice Jim

[Pdubs]

Here's my view. His prices are insane and he's a narcissist. His products ARE good though. I've seen a FPS increase and dwell decrease compared to my sprung HE bolt, as well as a lack of chopped balls (that might just be my adjusted dwell though)

[M98custom1212]

Originally Posted by Pdubs

Here's my view. His prices are insane and he's a narcissist. His products ARE good though. I've seen a FPS increase and dwell decrease compared to my sprung HE bolt, as well as a lack of chopped balls (that might just be my adjusted dwell though)

Yea, I saw performance increase also just like the eigenbolt will be out tomorrow

[inmylife2415]

there is a gain in fps and a drop in dwell. dont knock the product just because you dont like who is selling it

[godraep]

I didnt knock anything but the price. If I can buy almost 2 SFTs for $125 a bolt assembly shouldnt be the same price.

[UNDRPRVLGD_V2]

**** for 125 I can get a lot of good quality parts and bottom line your not going to get over 6-8 pods out of a shocker.

[inmylife2415]

It's not even a bolt assembley, just a guide and bolt.....yes that is crazy

[FallenHero_08]

come on lurker.. were creepin hard.

[UNDRPRVLGD_V2]

Originally Posted by FallenHero_08

come on lurker.. were creepin hard.

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