I wanted to post this last night but after two 13+ hour work days and 12+ hours driving all done within 48 hours, I was a little tired, especially getting home at 2am and then have to work today.
First let me start by saying congrats to all the teams out there this weekend, you guys all played great. Thank you all for coming out.
Now to the issue at hand. First of all, LongShot16, I know who you are. I have been going back and forth on whether I should post your name or not, BUT if I remember correctly, you weren’t event playing this event, correct? Because that is something important here to the rest of the public since you have decided to take this public. I have decided I am not going to post your name because I am not about to call people out and I’m going to be the better person.
I’m going to give you a small history about myself and the GPL/MAPL and paintball. I have been in paintball for 15 years. I have been running and operating every aspect of the MAPL (which formerly was the GPL) since 1999. I have grown this series from 12 teams to what it is today. I have put in many of many of hours into this league to make it what it is today. Back when we first started the league, there was no ranking system to check for player rankings. The NPPL was one league (no PSP) with 10man and 5man, and there were Pro, Am, and Novice divisions. That was it. AND you played everyone. So Nov teams would play Pro teams at events. That was the game. Over the years the system has changed so you don’t anymore. ALSO, there was no system to check a players ranking. Heck, there was not even a PBNation to look it up either. Chris Reahl come out with the APPA (sorry if I screw this up Chris) I believe in 2003. But back then it was in its infancy and mainly used for College Divisions. It was branched out to the PSP and the over the years into all the many and many leagues and events today. Back when the APPA came out, we did not use it. We actually had our own system. Finding player rankings was tough however. To search APPA, you had to have a login but to obtain a login you had to purchase to be a part of the system, NPPL's ranking system was never able to be viewed online, so I had to call them to confirm players. Do you know how long it takes to call on 600 players ranking status? Even then I could not confirm everyone. They will not confirm 600 players rankings. They will do a few here and there that are in question, but they will not confirm all my players, and same with APPA.
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Originally Posted by LongShot16
Takes all of 60 seconds to Google any person on their roster and determine their division and all other things associated.
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I have no clue where you got this option from. First, I have 600 players. When do I have the time to Google 600 players? Second , it doesn’t work. I want to prove to you this, however I am not going to single any players out to show you that this is not possible, but I decided to test your theory myself before I stated this is impossible, first 5 players I RANDOMLY chose from the event, none of them popped up in Google.
Now for the ruling. First we mirror the PSP, this rule is actually from their rulebook. This rule was designed to rank DOWN players. There are some players who legitimately do not belong in the division they are currently ranked in, however, they are ranked higher. This gives us the option to rerank players to be able to play. And we don’t even do that. And I am sure there may be one or two guys hop on here to state they are in that position and I denied their reranking. We do NOT rerank players. APPA is the most widely used Unified Ranking System in Paintball today. I stand confident in the program that I PAY to use to keep track of the players rankings. The NPPL does not use the system, this is correct. Because of that, these players status is listed based on their history in the APPA system at events that honor the APPA, which has been around for many many years. This situation happens in any event. NPPL has the same issue with people playing in their D3 division who are ranked D1 and even Pro in PSP and vice versa. We cannot honor another league who does not use the same ranking system, the same ranking qualifications and ranking requirements that we do. As I had stated in my email last week about this between "The APPA program tells us who is legal in the system we are using. We are formatted after the PSP series and that is the program we mirror. I'm sorry of you feel this is not fair. And trust me both John (Christ) and myself wish it could be all one ranking system. However it is not and we have to choose one ranking system or the other or none at all. We went with the system used by majority of the paintball industry and that which coincides with our format. The APPA system is the most widely used and creates by far the less "sandbagging" than any other system out there. And I am confident in their system." I still stand behind this. The players as a whole ASKED for us to use the APPA system and to abide by the APPA system, so that is what we are doing.
I know you knew about this last week, Rosters have been locked for days before the event, if you had felt this way before, we would have had no problem refunding your money before the event if you were signed up. We had 68 teams this weekend compete. 57 of which were in the same divisions as Fresh Factory (between the 3man 21 teams and the 36 5man teams, the D2/3 teams did not affect it), I have had 1 email, one complaint about their roster - You. If you have other people complaining to you please feel free to send them my way. We can only make changes to the league to make it better if the players tell us what they want, don’t want, ect. But in this case, we stand behind the APPA program.
Cyndi
Then maybe not as many people would be crying cause you took up on the opportunity to play lowest rank teams.
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