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Old 02-15-2013, 12:32 PM #1
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Pooty Core orings

I just picked up a Luxe 1.5 and the seller mentioned that he was using the 2.0 core instead of the pooty core because he didn't have the proper oring's to get it shooting how it should.
I have the pooty, 2.0 and original cores but would like to use the pooty.
I found the video of how to fit the orings, and figured I'd buy some on ebay.

Would this type of oring work?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200375427055

It's 70 buna, so it looks about right. I've also seen 13x1mm, 13x2mm, etc.

Also, the pooty core just sputters air, so does that sound like a fitting issue? Or could there be something else?
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:05 PM #2
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Watch this video he tells you how each oring should fit on his core-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjEI-PDlYuM
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Email me at chris@pootypaintball.com . I will then email you back the instructions that came with those parts.

Always zero out the reg when you go from mid to low pressure parts. That alone can fix the half cycle issue. If you over pressurize the bolt system you can get the half cycle.

As far as orings, use black buna orings. Standard sizes
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:22 PM #4
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Email me at chris@pootypaintball.com . I will then email you back the instructions that came with those parts.

Always zero out the reg when you go from mid to low pressure parts. That alone can fix the half cycle issue. If you over pressurize the bolt system you can get the half cycle.

As far as orings, use black buna orings. Standard sizes
Why do you recommend buna orings on your power core compared to say viton, HNBR, urethane or a mix of all 3?
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:54 PM #5
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Watch this video he tells you how each oring should fit on his core-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjEI-PDlYuM
Checked that video out this morning. I got her shooting flawlessly. Thanks!

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Email me at chris@pootypaintball.com . I will then email you back the instructions that came with those parts.

Always zero out the reg when you go from mid to low pressure parts. That alone can fix the half cycle issue. If you over pressurize the bolt system you can get the half cycle.

As far as orings, use black buna orings. Standard sizes
Thanks Chris, ill drop you an email soon. I did what you posted and it seems to be shooting perfectly.
So the orings posted should work, right?
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Why do you recommend buna orings on your power core compared to say viton, HNBR, urethane or a mix of all 3?
If you have the V1 can the oring fitment is a little looser. Black buna orings general have a good medium pressure fit.

Urethane orings will normally have a looser fit.

Viton orings are very hit and miss. Some fit very tight and some loose.


People are very confused on what o-rings can do for them.

Its not about the o-ring material at all. Sure some orings might last longer but fitment is much much more important.


Be concerned more about the fit. I have blue orings that are super expensive. But if they fit loose or tight then they are no use for the application I am trying to use them in.

I have hundreds of Urethane, Buna, Military spec, Hydrated (HNBR- green), silicon and grips of others.

Non of the above means anything to me if they don't fit correct.

People will tell you that a urethane will work better then a black. All bogus... Its the fitment and tension that is making it work better.....


This is all directed at dynamic orings. O-rings that slide on metal.

Static or non moving orings like outer can orings, frame sealing o-ring and orings that don't get friction I like to use black Buna orings as well.

Like above, they tend to run larger then urethane orings and seal great. Ruling out a leaking static o-ring is very important to me when I tech a luxe for a customer. So I do like a tighter fit on those. Urethane (clear) orings also work fine. I myself just have more black o-rings and they work just as good and are cheaper.

Sorry for the long ramble but I am sure some of the above info people will find useful.
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Thanks again for the info Chris.

One more question. I installed the feathertouch screw just now. Before installing the screw, my luxe was shooting perfectly fine (with the pooty core and bolt). Now with the FT screw, I'm getting really bad FSDO. The first few shots half-cycle, then it shoots. Once I stop shooting, it does the same thing over again.
What should I change in respect to settings? I'm on 14 MS dwell
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If you have the V1 can the oring fitment is a little looser. Black buna orings general have a good medium pressure fit.

Urethane orings will normally have a looser fit.

Viton orings are very hit and miss. Some fit very tight and some loose.


People are very confused on what o-rings can do for them.

Its not about the o-ring material at all. Sure some orings might last longer but fitment is much much more important.


Be concerned more about the fit. I have blue orings that are super expensive. But if they fit loose or tight then they are no use for the application I am trying to use them in.

I have hundreds of Urethane, Buna, Military spec, Hydrated (HNBR- green), silicon and grips of others.

Non of the above means anything to me if they don't fit correct.

People will tell you that a urethane will work better then a black. All bogus... Its the fitment and tension that is making it work better.....


This is all directed at dynamic orings. O-rings that slide on metal.

Static or non moving orings like outer can orings, frame sealing o-ring and orings that don't get friction I like to use black Buna orings as well.

Like above, they tend to run larger then urethane orings and seal great. Ruling out a leaking static o-ring is very important to me when I tech a luxe for a customer. So I do like a tighter fit on those. Urethane (clear) orings also work fine. I myself just have more black o-rings and they work just as good and are cheaper.

Sorry for the long ramble but I am sure some of the above info people will find useful.
Thanks for this ^. Answered a bunch of my questions.
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:31 PM #9
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Guess I'll start a separate thread for the other issue (it doesn't really fall under this question anyways). Hope it's no problem.
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Old 02-17-2013, 12:34 PM #10
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I watched pooties video on Utube and it helped a lot. But as being the first time and having to order more orings cause none of mine where tight enough. It can be tricky but the potty bolt is well worth it and its not like u have to change them often.
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