[Screaming4vengence]

why wasn't the vapor added into this poll. very simuler to a luxe. mabye a tad smoother

coming from a third party view not looking at buying either .
eliminate any thoughts of opinion such as the boards and "feel" its a vs thread not a i like this one because it feels right (not fair to add opinion)


-the vanquish is HORRID looking (worse than any bob long)
-(fairly sure vanquish is 1 allen key for everything +++)
-barrel kit +
-JUST BECAUSE ITS FIRST GEN DOSNT MEAN IT WILL CERTAINLY HAVE PROBLEMS
-empire is like buick however nice it may be, the name alone is enough for me not to think luxury

adding very little info for the luxe
-NO reason gun shouldnt take a 9v
-more aftermarket stuff (swarovski pooty mod being my fav)

the shape of the trigger might be a good way to decide on which is right for you ,as in psp vs semi(if the vanquish has a bump trigger rather than the luxe rake)

[xTheirOut2GetUx]

The vapor probably got left out cuz it's a piece of ****. I've never seen someone play for more than an hour with one without having to adjust/fix it. I'd include the vanguard demon in this comparison before the vapor (it's also a fancy gun with a shocker bolt system).

[darkracerian]

Originally Posted by kostis11

i'd wait to shoot a Vanquish before saying big words

i didnt say any big words

[xTheirOut2GetUx]

Originally Posted by darkracerian

i didnt say any big words because I don't have a dictionary.

Talking shockers. For people who can't read big words.

[darkracerian]

nice way to add words to what i say

[Screaming4vengence]

Originally Posted by xTheirOut2GetUx

The vapor probably got left out cuz it's a piece of ****. I've never seen someone play for more than an hour with one without having to adjust/fix it. I'd include the vanguard demon in this comparison before the vapor (it's also a fancy gun with a shocker bolt system).

1st off my vapor has never had a issue and its the people who don't know how to use them that make them look bad
2nd(just my opinion) vanguard needs to make a gun that isn't made of what appears to be 100% recycled parts
And most importantly 3rd have you lost your mind? The luxe vapor clonegt vanquish and demon bolts are near identical...how can you say one is a fancy shocker and not the others if theyr the same. And just figured I'd throw in that the luxe is more related to the shocker than any other marker I listed earlier due to dlx being a former branch of smart parts.

Any r tard can pull out an engine and see most new high ends are near identical. You have obviously not done this.

If there's something I said that wasn't true someone correct me.

[xTheirOut2GetUx]

I said its ALSO a fancy shocker. Meaning they all are. I'm very aware near every super high end gun coming out over the last 3 or so years has been a upgraded shocker.

[Screaming4vengence]

Originally Posted by xTheirOut2GetUx

I said its ALSO a fancy shocker. Meaning they all are. I'm very aware near every super high end gun coming out over the last 3 or so years has been a upgraded shocker.

Just making sure your not parroting some gun tech ,then hating on a gun

[kostis11]

Originally Posted by xTheirOut2GetUx

I said its ALSO a fancy shocker. Meaning they all are. I'm very aware near every super high end gun coming out over the last 3 or so years has been a upgraded shocker.

from the moment that they are upgraded in all the areas, they're fine to me

Originally Posted by Screaming4vengence

1st off my vapor has never had a issue and its the people who don't know how to use them that make them look bad
2nd(just my opinion) vanguard needs to make a gun that isn't made of what appears to be 100% recycled parts
And most importantly 3rd have you lost your mind? The luxe vapor clonegt vanquish and demon bolts are near identical...how can you say one is a fancy shocker and not the others if theyr the same. And just figured I'd throw in that the luxe is more related to the shocker than any other marker I listed earlier due to dlx being a former branch of smart parts.

Any r tard can pull out an engine and see most new high ends are near identical. You have obviously not done this.

If there's something I said that wasn't true someone correct me.

yeah, its like the NTs, its the users fault and not the markers, so why Dye and Machine made a marker that most people cant handle them?just to destroy their image?

Originally Posted by benzy2

I don't get why anyone would pay $1500 for either when a used NXT shocker can be had for $200 or less. Even if you toss in a Lurker bolt and an OLED board, you still are under $500 for functionally the same thing.

The Luxe and Vanuish are nice markers, but they are yesterday's $700 marker with a few small changes and a doubled price.

i have to admit that i cant neither justify the $1500 for these markers, compared to an AXE, they're not 3 time better( i know that the triple price doesnt mean that it is 3 times better, just saying) or not that much better than a GEO 3 or a V COM

[dragtheOne]

Originally Posted by K-9

Appears to be the same thing

Choose what you feel you want in a gun
Ion thread or Cocker
OLED or LED
Options etc

^^^ that pretty much sums it up.
Held and shot a Vanquish, seems just a little bit smoother than a new Luxe.

Anyone saying that it is first gen; It's platform is from a Luxe so it is more like a 3rd gen.

[kostis11]

i'd say 4th gen after 1.0 1.5 and 2.0, and i believe that Empire wouldnt release a crappy marker for $1500, they had all the time to fix the problems that they should have encountered