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08-31-2004, 10:46 PM
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W00t borg or isis?
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wait so let me get thsi striaght OGI and dragun arent the same now? and OGI is copying draguns stuff and selling it for more? sry i dont come her emuch
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08-31-2004, 10:56 PM
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#44
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lucky flag!
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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yeh, pretty much.
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08-31-2004, 11:23 PM
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#45
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as you would know one group will be comming out with the same marker at even a better price than odyssey
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Honestly Who cares anymore? We all know that neither Odyssey or OGI makes their guns. We all know they are the same damn guns with different names. But for better or worse Odyssey made it to market first with the goods. I compair it to Toyota and Lexus. Same damn car (given the model) but one allways has a higher price tag then the other; allthough not by much. Some are allways going to pick the Lexus over the Toyota and vise versa. I personally dont give a damn whos name is on the marker. What counts for me is price, availability, and quality. Cant we all just move on now?
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as good as the dm4 is, it has minor flause in it. so we inproved on the design of the air flow thru the valve.
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Can a person really take credit for designing somthing if all they did was improve on an existing design? Just my thought of the day.
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08-31-2004, 11:30 PM
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#46
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Stuff dreams are made of
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Hotel California
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Well one thing you over looked medicman from price, availability and quaily is customer service.
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08-31-2004, 11:47 PM
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True very true. You got me there. Allthough the only time Iv called odyseey I got a service tech on the first try, but it was just a general question more then a problem. Iv never called OGI support so I really have no compairison to make between the two.
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09-01-2004, 04:59 AM
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Originally posted by Tainen
whats this Type R your talking about?
just an O3?
and you'll think OGI will have better prices on the O5 than Odyssey, huh?
Even when they announced they are RAISING the prices of the One?
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because i dont work with odyssey anymore the type r and o2 have a new solinoid valve that uses a regular solinoid and is much cheeper. but functions the same as the o3 without all the fancy 3d milling. ogi made the gun to sell with odyssey but when they split and took my proto types of the o5 who do you think can sell cheeper a name brand company like odyssey or dragun dragun been selling cheeper than any other company in the market. thats good odyssey is saying their raising prices cause they will be over priced and cant move the stock
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09-01-2004, 05:03 AM
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Originally posted by purewrath
wait so let me get thsi striaght OGI and dragun arent the same now? and OGI is copying draguns stuff and selling it for more? sry i dont come her emuch
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in the begining ogi stood for one group international doing buissness as dragun and had nothing to do with odyssey.
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09-01-2004, 05:06 AM
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Originally posted by medicman5000
Honestly Who cares anymore? We all know that neither Odyssey or OGI makes their guns. We all know they are the same damn guns with different names. But for better or worse Odyssey made it to market first with the goods. I compair it to Toyota and Lexus. Same damn car (given the model) but one allways has a higher price tag then the other; allthough not by much. Some are allways going to pick the Lexus over the Toyota and vise versa. I personally dont give a damn whos name is on the marker. What counts for me is price, availability, and quality. Cant we all just move on now?
Can a person really take credit for designing somthing if all they did was improve on an existing design? Just my thought of the day.
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you must be a rocket scientist because if you new anything you would know all odysseys guns in the first 7 months were shipped out of draguns office. how would u know who makes them.
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09-01-2004, 10:56 AM
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No need to bite my head off, Im just stating common knowledge wich is no secret. If I have the names wrong sorry. But, everyone here knows that Dragun overseas makes the markers, while OGI and aparently Odyssey are the american distributers of the markers (marketed under their given names). Now take a deep breath there Red. You might throw a clot if you continue to get worked up so easy.
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09-01-2004, 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by medicman5000
No need to bite my head off, Im just stating common knowledge wich is no secret. If I have the names wrong sorry. But, everyone here knows that Dragun overseas makes the markers, while OGI and aparently Odyssey are the american distributers of the markers (marketed under their given names). Now take a deep breath there Red. You might throw a clot if you continue to get worked up so easy.
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sorry if it sounds that way i just put alot of design work in the past couple of years and hate when people claim they own or invented something such as the case in odyssey i have lived in taiwan for quite sometime so any info u need ill tell u the truth.
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09-01-2004, 01:12 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: San Antonio
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Red Dragun,
Do you have any dates on when current O3 owners can expect the data cable and delrin bolt?
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09-01-2004, 02:34 PM
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Seattle area
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Sigh. Red,
I said OGI was raising prices on the One.
not Odyssey.
If your designing stuff for dragun, okay, but OGI and Odyssey are the US markets for that, so both companies should get this technology.
its not really even stealing, because they had the rights to it when they were merged.
right?
and you never answered my question, what IS the type R?
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09-01-2004, 07:02 PM
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Red dragon -
Taiwan huh? lets just see "true" that statement is. If you can answer these common questions, I'll believe you. In the meantime, I think you're a flamin liar. For crying out loud you spelled "knew" as "new". "prototype" as 2 words, you spell "solenoid" as "solinoid" and you seem to lack periods and punctuation in almost every sentence. I mean come on, if you're gonna make a complicaed electro-mechanical componant you should be able to spell its name right.
So you're either a liar or a moron. Prove me wrong, I'm hoping that you do.
1. Who's picture is on the 100 bill? Its the most common bill there is, get one out and look.
2. What is SOGO?
3. What side of the car does the driver sit in Taiwan?
4. What color are taxi's in Taiwan?
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09-01-2004, 07:24 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: cal
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LOL
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09-01-2004, 07:45 PM
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#57
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lucky flag!
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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google it!
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09-01-2004, 09:35 PM
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So you're either a liar or a moron.
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Im glad you said it. I was trying to be all PC with it. Somthing just dosent seem on par with his statements. I think I'll buy that he worked there, but so far thats it. Otherwise why would he be taking the side of OGI with so much prejudice. Im thinking if I had a company that made X product with 2 client distributors I wouldnt care which one sold Xproduct for less. I would be conserned with the distributors abbility to move the product and suport the product. call me crazy but thats just me.
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09-01-2004, 10:43 PM
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All of this will fold out in due time. And I think there's going to be some eye-opening moments soon. PBN has already had to ban several accounts, from posing as employees of Odyssey, libelous accounts attempting to spread hysterics, others creating confusion on markers that hadn't even shipped yet, and several others. All forwarded to the correct people. The battle will not be fought on PBN, rather in court. And when the word is given that it's okay to speak out, I think many are going to be a very big surprise here soon. Until then, life doesn't stop for you. Go out, see the games and support the great companies that bring you this addicting sport.
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09-01-2004, 10:54 PM
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Well stated!
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09-01-2004, 11:01 PM
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Gonads and Strife
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: in front of my computer
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Originally posted by syphenfilter
All of this will fold out in due time. And I think there's going to be some eye-opening moments soon. PBN has already had to ban several accounts, from posing as employees of Odyssey, libelous accounts attempting to spread hysterics, others creating confusion on markers that hadn't even shipped yet, and several others. All forwarded to the correct people. The battle will not be fought on PBN, rather in court. And when the word is given that it's okay to speak out, I think many are going to be a very big surprise here soon. Until then, life doesn't stop for you. Go out, see the games and support the great companies that bring you this addicting sport.
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thanks for the reassurance. hopefully all this will be settled sooner than later.
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09-02-2004, 03:21 PM
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lol, the OGI split left lots of loose ends. but odyssey is back to being good ol odyssey...
about the o5.... u guys will like it :-) keep waiting 4 it, i doubt it will dissapoint u.
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09-02-2004, 07:09 PM
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Shootin Faces since 89'
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Minnesota
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Red was the only one here speaking truth ...
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