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Old 09-27-2011, 03:26 PM #43
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Old 09-27-2011, 03:27 PM #44
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That's the one that will grant magical tingles, yes?
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I know, but Im not necessarily looking to get cut, no homo lurkers size is awesome. Hence when I started gaining I posted ridiculous bulk is in order. And its goin down.

Jdub-More meat, omega 3's from nuts/fish. Bulk a little dirty if you have too. Just dont over do it.
Again, you are putting on unnecessary fat. Though this relationship can't soundly be expressed linearly it still holds merit. If you were to keep this up for a year you'd gain 102 pounds. How much of that do you think you would gain in muscle?


I'm just saying dude you can't increase muscle gained by just packing on extra food. You get a diminishing return. If you are gaining two pounds a week not on steroids and not noob gains it's not nearly all muscle.

Just my .02.
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what caffeine tabs do you guys recommend, may buy some to see how i like them.
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Old 09-27-2011, 03:31 PM #47
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whats a good dosage on them for someone who doesnt take em often but drinks cafinated drinks regularly
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Again, you are putting on unnecessary fat. Though this relationship can't soundly be expressed linearly it still holds merit. If you were to keep this up for a year you'd gain 102 pounds. How much of that do you think you would gain in muscle?


I'm just saying dude you can't increase muscle gained by just packing on extra food. You get a diminishing return. If you are gaining two pounds a week not on steroids and not noob gains it's not nearly all muscle.

Just my .02.
You think lurkers bulk was clean? He wants dat hooogness now.
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whats a good dosage on them for someone who doesnt take em often but drinks cafinated drinks regularly
Start with 100mg.
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I think I will try to add in a cup-two of rice per day and a filet of cod. Ty

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what caffeine tabs do you guys recommend, may buy some to see how i like them.
I just use CVS brand lol
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Disregard tabs acquire big bucket from SP or nutraplanet


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Dat dere beta alanine, vegan brah

I really feel my workouts have been worse since being without beta alanine for the last few months besides the bit I get from jack3d.

Need to get a new bucket of it.
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That's the one that will grant magical tingles, yes?
Yes. As discussed previously, it's a carnosine precursor, and carnosine is lacking in the vegan diet. Thus the recommendation.
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You think lurkers bulk was clean? He wants dat hooogness now.
That doesn't change anything.....

Wants hooogness now? So putting on almost 10 pounds a month which is largely glycogen stores/fat constitutes as "hugeness". I guess it does, but not in a positive sense.

Obviously Lurker isn't ****ing 7% body fat but based on that recent picture I wouldn't put him anything over 15-16 (correct me if I am wrong)


I don't agree with the cyclical cut/bulk phases unless you are a competition bodybuilder. There's no real reason to dirty bulk and put on 6%'s of fat simply because it's winter, and then go through an excruciating cut that leaves you hungry and lonely.

Much better/easier to be content with .8-1 pound a week and do it while staying relatively lean.

If your bodies natty limit is to put on a pound a week, cramming an extra 500 calories on top of that won't increase lbm.
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what about those that gain weight very easily??

im kinda scared because i dont want to put on weight too fast, for the reason you have already stated. i think it'll be super easy for me to add 10lb in a month, even tho it will be very clean eating
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trying a sample of CODE RED pre workout..

not liking the flavor

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what about those that gain weight very easily??

im kinda scared because i dont want to put on weight too fast, for the reason you have already stated. i think it'll be super easy for me to add 10lb in a month, even tho it will be very clean eating
Anyone can gain weight it is called eating a **** ton of food. You aren't going to find someone who can naturally gain 2 pounds of muscle a week after noobgains/without extra help, just ain't gonna happen.

Like I posted before, there is a large body fat window that you don't notice change. Take a guy who weights 180 at 12% body fat. Bulk to 190 and say his new bf % is somewhere like 15%. He isn't going to look that different in terms of fat composition, but he did add a fair amount of fat.

But what you can't alter significantly (without extra help) is your body's ability to create new lbm out of that food.

I could sit here and eat 6k cals a day and I'd weight 200 pounds in 5 months. Would I have put on some good muscle? Sure. Would I look absolutely gluttonous at 25% body fat? Yes.
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Yes. As discussed previously, it's a carnosine precursor, and carnosine is lacking in the vegan diet. Thus the recommendation.
So i feel like I am always hounding you for recommended dosing on things like this, but it really is just because I either find conflicting reports or no clear answer elsewhere. Can I ask where you find your doses for such things like BA, betaine, etc?
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So i feel like I am always hounding you for recommended dosing on things like this, but it really is just because I either find conflicting reports or no clear answer elsewhere. Can I ask where you find your doses for such things like BA, betaine, etc?
at least 3.2g a day beta alanine
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So i feel like I am always hounding you for recommended dosing on things like this, but it really is just because I either find conflicting reports or no clear answer elsewhere. Can I ask where you find your doses for such things like BA, betaine, etc?
studies, typically.

5g BA ED is plenty

2.5g betaine - http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2011...-increase.html
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not liking the flavor

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taste like ****.

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Slower mass changes are always more keepable. Always. Both ways.

Pro contest prep is like often 16-18 weeks now, if I'm not mistaken. Pelt might know better than me. Layne follows this theory, I know, although he has the additional restriction of having to test negative for steroids
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trying to do it slowly right now. Feels too slow, only have a crappy old school scale and it's barely moved in 3 weeks. of course, I have to recalibrate it every time. But I'm counting accurately and only taking in 2100 kcal a day max. Should be moving at a decent clip so I'm waiting for a woosh.

Just had my first shake with ON double chocolate. HORY **** never buying cheap whey again. This stuff tastes amazing. not worth saving 5-10 per 5lbs and missing out on this flavor.
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