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Old 02-12-2005, 01:44 PM
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Absolutely EVERYTHING on the ION

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This thread brought to you by NiGhTsOlDiEr333, Ydna, and bunkerdive(me).

Sorry NiGhTsOlDiEr333 im not trying to steal your thunder or anything but I decided to piece together information I have found and make it one big thing.

Here is, I think, about every question and statistic about the new Smart Parts Ion.

Section 1: Pictures
Section 2: Summary
Section 3: Stats
Section 4: In depth FAQ
Section 5: Pictures and Videos
Section 6: Where to buy
Section 7: How to take apart
Section 8: Ion aftermarket parts




First off, the Ion uses an open bolt electropneumatic blowforward design similar to that of the Automag, Freestyle, or closed bolt (prototype) Shocker SFT. In brief, the bolt is blown forward during firing, at which point air passages in the bolt become open and air is released down the barrel to fire the paintball. The bolt is pushed back and held there by pressure from the solenoid.

The gun comes with an eye that can be turned on and off. There are currently 4 colors available (black, red, blue, and yellow) and will be more available coming this summer. The shell comes off the gun like a cell phone cover.

LENGTH: 18 inches
WEIGHT: 2 pounds and 2 ounces
STOCK BARREL: new ion barrel 12 inches
THREADING: feedneck and barrel are both Impulse threaded
BATTERY: 9 volt
OPERATING PRESSURE: 180 PSI
AIR SOURCE: anti-syphon co2 or nitro(compressed air)
AIR EFFICIENCY: 1200 shots from a 68/45 tank, 800 shots from a 20 oz co2 tank
FIRING MODES: full auto, 3 shot burst, semi auto, rebound
MAX RATE OF FIRE: 17 bps on semi and rebound, 10 on full auto and 3 shot burst
ADJUSTABLE FEATURES: dwell, rate of fire, fire mode
TRIGGER: adjustable length, tension, and stop point through two set screws.

Where can I find a manual?
http://www.wppseries.com/ion/Ion_Manual.pdf and http://www.wppseries.com/ion/Ion_Manual.pdf

What tools will I need?
Your Ion will come with some of them. .05", 3/32", and 1/8" allen wrenches. 5/8" and 7/16" double open end wrench. Spare parts kit. YOU WILL NEED a 9/16" deep well socket and rachet and a Phillips screwdriver.

Is the only way to exit the programming mode by pulling the trigger, or is there a time limit after which it exits the programming mode?
Yes, youhave to pull the trigger.

How many shots per 9v does the gun get?
Approx 15,000.

What is the operating pressure of the solenoid?
Same as the rest of the gun.

How does the feedneck utilize the o-rings?
There are grooves milled on the inside of the feedneck where the rings are placed. If the fit is too tight you can remove one and it will be looser

What HPA tank output pressure can I use?
If you're using a preset tank, it is best to use an HP output tank. Most LP preset tanks don't have enough flow to keep up with the marker. A LP Crossfire tank is just about the only LP preset tank that can handle it.
Don't have to worry about tank output pressure if you're using CO2.

What parts are interchangeable?
You can unscrew the verticle regulator and change it, barrel of course, and the feedneck. It is not compatable with other boards.

Is the pressure gauge on the regulator or the gun?
Gun.

How do you adjust the velocity?
Use the 5/8" wrench to turn the hex section at the bottom of the regulator. Clockwise to turn the velocity up.

Is the gun plastic?
No, the Ion is made from powder-coat finish aluminum except for the cosmetic polymer exoskeleton that is placed around the body. This allows for all the benefits of aluminum construction with the added ability to change the color and design without having to purchase a whole new body. Further, it is a lot faster to change the skin than to swap out bodies.
Great idea, cuts costs and customizes your gun much easier. Who wants to pay 150 for an anno job when you can pay 30 for some shells?

why impulse threads?
most probably for these reasons
1. SP has plenty of imp threaded freak kits they wanna get rid of
2. so do other people with imp barrels

is it spring return?
no

what boards are coming out?
Wicked Air Sportz has ordered Ions for testing.

Is there a warranty on the gun?
1 year warranty:
to initial retail purchaser that the marker and regulator are free from defects, electronics
6 month:
Valve assembly, solenoid, and assembly

How can i void my warranty?
The warranty doesnt include scratches, nicks, misude, improper re-assembly and disassembly. Also, if you drill any holes, remove anything from the external surface, or alter the trigger assembly you will loose your warranty. You must have your warranty registration card (comes with gun).

Why should I get the Ion instead of the Shocker or Nerve, or Impulse?
The Ion is specifically designed to be high performance for low cost. Although you will receive improved speed, consistency, efficiency, and other areas with a Nerve or Shocker, the idea is that you will be able to upgrade the Ion gradually instead of spending the money on the higher-end SP marker.
Production costs were kept to a minimum on the Ion just so the MSRP of $300 would be possible.

Is the on off button that red thing next to the word power?
Yes.

Does the Ion have a tourny lock?
Yes.

How do you switch modes?
Using the trigger and on/off buttons.

How do you change the exoskeletons?
The exoskeleton is held onto the body using several standard screws. You must take off the grip frame and remove the screws holding it to the body, and can then switch it out with a new skin. Quick and easy to perform, anytime you want.

I heard the Vision system in Impulses and Shockers isn't as good as some other guns out there. Is the Ion different?
Yes, the Ion uses a transmissive (aka. beam-break) anti-chop eye system instead of the reflective eyes used in the Shocker and Impulse. There is no such thing as an invisible paint when using beam-break eyes.

Technical Questions:

What is the best dwell setting to use?
We suggest you use the stock dwell setting of 52 as it should do the job. Don't mess too much with the settings unless you wish to spend time trying to figure out what might possibly work best.

My Ion chops right in the beginning of the barrel...what can I do?
You may wish to try using a softer SFT o-ring (the 17/70 instead of the 17/90). Another popular solution would be to use a dremel or other rotary tool to smooth down the forward edge of the SFT o-ring groove. I provide this service for a small fee.

What types of regulators can be used on the Ion?
Most aftermarket regulators that will work on other electropneumatics will function on the Ion, so long as they can regulate to a low enough pressure and be able to keep up with the necessary recharge rates. The following is a short list of several of the regulators which can keep up (there are more, threse are just some examples): Smart Parts Max-Flo, AKALMP Sidewinder, MacDev Max Attack and Conquest regs, Crossfire preset tank regs, Air America Armageddon, PMI THOR (some users claim this reg can keep up; others do not), Hyper-Flow regs, Bob Long Torpedo, Custom Products regulator.

If the Vision eye is activated, isn't the maximum ROF cap disabled?
No, Smart Parts does not program their boards to do this, unlike some other manufacturers.

What hopper should I buy? or Should I use an eVolutionII or a Halo?
This is also a matter of personal preference. I suggest you try both and see how they compare. Remember the vast balance difference between the eVolution and the Halo.



******Here are some vids******

http://www.pbvidsupload.com/upload/M...20Shooting.wmv Vid i slapped together in a minute

http://www.pbvidsupload.com/upload/fast%20ion.wmv fastest ion vid yet
thanks to backplayer6743

http://www.smartparts.com/PR/IonVideo.aspx Thanks SP

http://putt.pbvids.com/ION.avi Thanks badlands
(You need Quicktime to view)

http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=DSCF0016
http://ftppbvidsco.temp.powweb.com/upload/ionvideo.wmv
thanks to vicioussrevenge

*****Pics*****

http://img208.exs.cx/img208/7606/ionblack28um.jpg
http://img208.exs.cx/img208/6919/ionblue24yg.jpg
http://img208.exs.cx/img208/7805/ionred22va.jpg
http://img208.exs.cx/img208/7140/ionyellow26bb.jpg

With the shell off:
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...hreadid=843776

Electronics:
http://img157.exs.cx/img157/8660/dscf00037jj.jpg

Bolt:
http://img157.exs.cx/img157/9977/dscf00046te.jpg



***Places to buy and prices****
www.Punisherspb.com $284.99 free ground shipping
www.pbgear.com $284.95 free ground shipping
www.splatzone.net $284.95
www.paintball-discounters.com $284.95
www.smartparts.com $299.00
www.badlandspaintball.com $379.99 CANADIAN
www.firstcallpaintball.com 284.99
www.xpaintball.biz $285
http://www.all4paintball.com 349$ Canadian





****THIS EXPLAINS HOW TO TAKE IT APART! VERY HELPFUL!****http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...hreadid=858614



*****AFTERMARKET ION PARTS*****
Ion triggers
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...hreadid=862983





please let me know if i left anything out
submit any additional faq questions, vids, or pics if they arent too similar to the ones above. It is better to have it all one one easy post!
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Old 02-12-2005, 01:46 PM
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Here are some vids:

http://www.smartparts.com/PR/IonVideo.aspx Thanks SP

http://putt.pbvids.com/ION.avi Thanks badlands
(You need Quicktime to view)

Pics:
http://img208.exs.cx/img208/7606/ionblack28um.jpg
http://img208.exs.cx/img208/6919/ionblue24yg.jpg
http://img208.exs.cx/img208/7805/ionred22va.jpg
http://img208.exs.cx/img208/7140/ionyellow26bb.jpg

Thanks vicious for the pics
With the body removed:
http://www.smartparts.com/Products/i...dIon-shell.jpg

Electronics:
http://img157.exs.cx/img157/8660/dscf00037jj.jpg

Bolt:
http://img157.exs.cx/img157/9977/dscf00046te.jpg

FAQ Provided By Ydna

Q: Why should I get the Ion instead of the Shocker or Nerve, or Impulse?
A: The Ion is specifically designed to be high performance for low cost. Although you will receive improved speed, consistency, efficiency, and other areas with a Nerve or Shocker, the idea is that you will be able to upgrade the Ion gradually instead of spending the money on the higher-end SP marker.
Production costs were kept to a minimum on the Ion just so the MSRP of $300 would be possible.

Q: Is the Ion made of plastic?
A: No. The Ion is made from powder-coat finish aluminum except for the cosmetic polymer exoskeleton that is placed around the body. This allows for all the benefits of aluminum construction with the added ability to change the color and design without having to purchase a whole new body. Further, it is a lot faster to change the skin than to swap out bodies.

Q: How does the Ion work? Are there any other markers like it?
A: The Ion uses an open bolt electropneumatic blowforward design similar to that of the Automag, Freestyle, or closed bolt (prototype) Shocker SFT. In brief, the bolt is blown forward during firing, at which point air passages in the bolt become open and air is released down the barrel to fire the paintball. The bolt is pushed back and held there by pressure from the solenoid.

Q: Are there any upgrades for the Ion?
A: All upgrades for the marker can be found here.

Q: How do you change the exoskeletons?
A: The exoskeleton is held onto the body using several standard screws. You must take off the grip frame and remove the screws holding it to the body, and can then switch it out with a new skin. Quick and easy to perform, anytime you want.

Q: Does the base/stock Ion come with a vertical regulator?
A: Yes, this will drop the pressure to the levels required for the marker.

Q: Does the Ion work with CO2 and HPA, or just HPA?
A: The Ion, like other SP markers, can function off both compressed air or CO2. Compressed air is recommended however not required. If you use CO2, anti-siphon CO2 is recommended.

Q: Can I upgrade the barrel? or What threading does the barrel use?
A: The Ion comes with a new one-piece stock barrel and accepts all other Impulse-threaded aftermarket barrels.

Q: What are the threads on the vertical feed tube?
A: The vertical feed is threaded for the Impulse, Nerve, Shocker, Omen, Bushmaster, and "new-style" Piranhas. There are many aftermarket tubes available.

Q: Does the Ion come stock with Vision?
A: Yes!

Q: I heard the Vision system in Impulses and Shockers isn't as good as some other guns out there. Is the Ion different?
A: Yes, the Ion uses a transmissive (aka. beam-break) anti-chop eye system instead of the reflective eyes used in the Shocker and Impulse. There is no such thing as an invisible paint when using beam-break eyes.

Q: What is the operating pressure of the Ion?
A: 150-200 psi.

Q: What HPA tank output pressure can I use?
A: If you're using a preset tank, it is best to use an HP output tank. Most preset tanks don't have enough flow to keep up with the marker. Crossfire is just about the only preset tank that can work without problems.
Don't have to worry about tank output pressure if you're using CO2.

Q: What is the Ion's maximum rate of fire?
A: The board is electronically capped at 17-bps. Users can also set the maximum ROF to smaller values if desired by adjusting the recharge setting on the cicuitry. The design of the marker limits it to 17-bps; purchasing a new board will not let you fire faster.

Q: What fire modes does the Ion have?
A: The Ion's stock board is equipped with semiautomartic, rebound (ROF ramping), three-shot burst, and fully-automatic. Three-shot burst and fully-automatic available in the US only.

Technical Questions:

Q: What is the best dwell setting to use?
A: We suggest you use the stock dwell setting of 52 as it should do the job. Don't mess too much with the settings unless you wish to spend time trying to figure out what might possibly work best.

Q: My Ion chops right in the beginning of the barrel...what can I do?
A: You may wish to try using a softer SFT o-ring (the 17/70 instead of the 17/90). Another popular solution would be to use a dremel or other rotary tool to smooth down the forward edge of the SFT o-ring groove. I provide this service for a small fee.

Q: What types of regulators can be used on the Ion?
A: Most aftermarket regulators that will work on other electropneumatics will function on the Ion, so long as they can regulate to a low enough pressure and be able to keep up with the necessary recharge rates. The following is a short list of several of the regulators which can keep up (there are more, threse are just some examples): Smart Parts Max-Flo, AKALMP Sidewinder, MacDev Max Attack and Conquest regs, Crossfire preset tank regs, Air America Armageddon, PMI THOR (some users claim this reg can keep up; others do not), Hyper-Flow regs, Bob Long Torpedo, Custom Products regulator.

Q: If the Vision eye is activated, isn't the maximum ROF cap disabled?
A: No, Smart Parts does not program their boards to do this, unlike some other manufacturers.

Q: What hopper should I buy? or Should I use an eVolutionII or a Halo?
A: This is also a matter of personal preference. I suggest you try both and see how they compare. Remember the vast balance difference between the eVolution and the Halo.

Last edited by Jedunnigan : 02-12-2005 at 05:28 PM.
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Old 02-12-2005, 01:55 PM
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can you say sticky
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Old 02-12-2005, 02:07 PM
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yes. sticky. this will clear up all these questions clogging this forum.
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Old 02-12-2005, 02:23 PM
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we already have a sticky like this!
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Old 02-12-2005, 02:50 PM
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do you know about N2 if HP or LP matters if both are fine?
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I think this one is alot clearer and more in depth...STICKY!
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I also agree this should be stickied. But wouldnt thsi mean replacign the ION cold hard truths section?
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Old 02-12-2005, 03:18 PM
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That was a little less then 10 bps...
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I think this one is alot clearer and more in depth...STICKY!
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wow, Your wrong! the marker runs at 180-220 and your saying that most preset tanks wont keep up with the marker?!
are you on high?
a lp tank runs at about 400 that almost double what the marker actually needs and a preset hpa tanks run at about 800PSI thats 4 times as much!
as long as you have a hpa or LPA tank with a "high flowing" regulater. pretty much any regulater over 80$ is good enough.

This shouldnt be stickied since this is just copying other peoples work from other threads. (at least give them credit)

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Old 02-12-2005, 05:20 PM
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I hope your not talking to me because I gave credit to Ydna.

I see that you have not read the manual, thus you are stating bs information (not saying u have to read the manual to know what you are talking about). It clearly states to NOT exceed 200psi. The operationg pressure of the regis is 150-200psi.

Also we are not talking output, we are talking RECHARGE rate. Obviosly this wouldnt be a problem with HP tanks because they already have such a high output. This would be a problem with LP.
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Old 02-12-2005, 05:51 PM
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150-200 is the operating pressure of what the ion runs on, if the inline reg is good it does all the work. That is why they are called regulators to regulate the air. The reg should take down the 450-800psi from the tank to 150-200psi.
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There is no such thing as an invisible paint when using beam-break eyes.
Actually one person was using this paint with his piranha evo (which also has break beam eyes) and he said that every once in a while it wouldn't read this paint. Its clear, so it is possible that some piantballs did not break the beam.

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Old 02-13-2005, 11:25 AM
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u thought wrong lol. o man i had a dream i got my ion in the mail, opened it, and it was a tippmann a5 with wet, candy blue paint??? i really need to stop eating right b4 bed lol
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Old 02-13-2005, 11:57 AM
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Looks tight, but the pics with body removed no work.
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where can i buy dif. grips? cuz i dont wana buy the gun from smart parts (more expensive) but they are the only 1s w. that option to add for grips.... as well as feed necks
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u can buy any grips that fit a 45 frame
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