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Old 05-17-2005, 11:29 PM #1
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Lightbulb New pics: Side loading spyder. T-board/eyes + 4 ball detents

Here are a couple of new pics showing the bouncebeam eye in the chamber and the detents used. The eye is mounted at the base of the stock detent with about half of the eye covered by the detent. It is angled upward at about 45* so I can run the sensitivity up higher to help with darker paint.

There are two detents in place where the feedneck used to be. They use the old feedneck mounting holes to secure them and protrude through the old breech into the chamber. The front detent aids the stock detent to prevent double feeds and the one in the rear prevents roll-back. The fourth detent is at the base of the feedneck to keep balls from rolling in once the Qpod is empty. If they aren't forced in by the Q, since gravity cant help, they might hang halfway in the breech and get chopped ( assuming the eyes dont do their job, double insurance )

The eye is held in place by the stock detent. The wires are secured with a chunk of aluminum that I hacked into something like an eye cover. Not very pretty but it works. You may notice I drilled and tapped holes into the lower tube to secure the eye cover. The holes are on either side of the oring on the tip of the VA. I was concerned about leaks but when I aired it up and played around with the marker I found no leaks. If a problem arises I can always put a dab of RTV on the screws.

As you can see, I have exchanged the copper elbow with the stock Q elbow and use a piece of 1" rubber hose as a coupler. It absorbs shock pretty well. The black thing around the feed tube is a piece of a panty-hose ( don't ask ).

I've got a bunch of cases through since I finished the project a while ago and haven't had a single ball break this whole time.

I'm working on a nice compact elbow-block to replace what is currently being used. I want to bring that hose in toward the marker another inch and a half or so. I remember AGD worked on something a while ago, I might "borrow" their idea.





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Old 05-18-2005, 12:00 AM #2
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im liking it, most people make their gun look hideous while doing these mods, but it doesnt look halve bad keep up the good work
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Old 05-18-2005, 12:11 AM #4
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It's the Qloader. I'm working on an elbow that'll tighten things up a bit. Having to use the Qloader elbow with the rubber hose and hose clamps is really ghetto looking ( not that I care, much ) plus it sticks out more than I like. The Q elbow is a bit brittle, also.
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Old 05-18-2005, 02:35 AM #5
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Mabye use a powerfeed or something similar in line with the body. That way you will have it compact and also it will have the angle in it so the balls feed right. Just a thought. It would take a little work to get the powerfeed to line up right but you could get a very tight sidefeed that way.
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Old 05-18-2005, 05:23 AM #7
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Try warp feed adapters
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Old 05-18-2005, 06:26 AM #8
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Old 05-18-2005, 08:48 AM #9
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i'm surprised the bolt slides through those 4 detents like butter...
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Old 05-18-2005, 11:50 AM #10
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The warp adapter from proteams would work. It fits pretty close to the marker. But, it's 30 bucks. The warp elbow from AGD is only 10 bucks but it isn't as short as the proteams adapter.

If I had a nice block of plastic I think I could make one myself.

The fourth detent is in the feedneck so the marker is only fighting 3. I wondered if it would be a problem but it hasn't been. I should be getting the Tchip this week ( the one I got was programmed wrong and wouldnt allow firing mode selection ) and when I do I'll make a vid of max-cycles-per-second. I've seen alot of vids showing the marker dry fire or just the solenoid click. But I'm going to make one of the marker actually shooting balls that fast. I want to see if the Q can keep up. I'm thinking at least 16 prewinds...

( I need compressed air ) Co2 is going to freeze the crap out of my marker. Maybe I'll come up with an expansion chamber warmer.
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or just have some one lend u their nitrogen tank for a sec.

its funny how u got a kool q-loader setup but no nitrogen tank, but nice job
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damn, 4 detents!

looks meh, but for good work
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Old 05-18-2005, 10:19 PM #13
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I don't think pics do anyones setup justice. It really does look better in person for some reason.
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I have a nitro I might be able to sell ya

I might be interested. PM me with more details.
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Jesus tits that's crazy!

A very nice improvement over your last update.
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Old 05-18-2005, 11:49 PM #18
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awesome job, your hard work has paid off i see, theres no height on the top of that gun. lets see a video!
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Old 05-19-2005, 12:09 AM #19
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I got a Tchip with the tboard but it was programmed incorrectly. When I get the replacement chip I will make a max-cycles-per-second video using paintballs. I'll do it with teh eyes on at first, then with the eyes off. I'll probably have the chip by the end of the week or saturday. A video the same day, I'm sure.
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Old 05-21-2005, 11:03 PM #20
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I got my replacement Tchip today. I got everything tweaked today. However, to get the solenoid to run a complete cycle I had to adjust the ROF down to about 31bps. I believe I can shim the solenoid to allow for a higher bps. Maybe upwards of 40ish. I will try this and then I will try taking the grip frame off and manually disengaging the sear by pushing on the solenoid plunger. I'll get the vid up tomorrow.
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Old 05-22-2005, 08:01 PM #21
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well i personally dont like but i give u lots of credit for all the hard work that must of taken so good job.
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